My Response to a Fellow ChicagoNow Writer: Derrick Rose and Jeremy Lin are Both Good Role Models No More, No Less

My Response to a Fellow ChicagoNow Writer: Derrick Rose and Jeremy Lin are Both Good Role Models No More, No Less

One of the things I love about ChicagoNow is how it provides a forum of well-articulated people to profess their thoughts and opinions. A great article from this website, which made the front page of the ChicagoTribune.com website is done by Chicago Chivalry. If you haven't read @gwillchi's article yet, please do so before you proceed to read mine.

I was pleased to read how Chicago Chivalry recognizes that his post should not be contrived as, "Derrick Rose is not a role model" but instead, acknowledging he is. However, where the debate can spark is if Jeremy Lin is more of a role model than Derrick Rose is. Chicago Chivalry claims Lin is a better role model because due to the racial comments the likes of boxer Floyd Mayweather and two ESPN.com editors made over the past 2 weeks, Lin has taken the high road by not commenting on them. By Jeremy Lin not commenting on racist remarks about him and the Asian community doesn't make him a better role model, it makes him a very smart, PR-savvy athlete. Knowing any sort of comment, especially to the New York media, Lin may have very well known to turn away from this topic to prevent a potential Public Relations nightmare. So, I wouldn't be so quick to tag him as a "better role" model than Derrick Rose.

Lastly, I wouldn't go as far as to say that being a good, humble civilian should be "customary" for all athletes because nowadays, it's not. How many times have you seen a professional athlete gain so much success, see their bank account exponentially grow and shows an ounce of class Lin or Rose shows? Unfortunately not too many. I know there's a narcissistic superstar in Miami Beach who isn't. Are you fully aware of the stories of Terrell Owens, Allen Iverson, Pacman Jones, and Floyd Mayweather? Unfortuantely, the opinion of civility among professional athletes is low, and it should be. It's already difficult to expect regular people without success and wealth to have humility and be a good civilian so why should the expectation be higher for athletes? In an ideal world, all athletes would defer to their teammates, thank their coaches, and not have ulterior motives. But remember, we don't live in an ideal world...

The Rose and Lin stories are great stories. Rose who grew up in Englewood, one of the highest murder rates in a Chicago neighborhood, kept his focus on a basketball instead of a Smith & Wesson pistol. Lin, a Harvard grad who was almost a game away from being cut for the third time in one season, becomes a National, possibly worldwide sensation overnight. Both are humble people who defer the attention to their teammates and look awkward in their personal success. Both are good people, no more, no less than the other. They are both fresh air to an imperfect world. Let's just be happy that we can add another role model to the children of America.

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    Good response, I personally just think that, that writer just doesn't like Derrick Rose and hates that a black kid from Chicago tatted head to toe is very loved by his city and fans all over the world. That's pretty much how he comes off in that article. He didn't support anything that made Lin a better "role model" than Rose, he actually made Rose sound pretty good. Plus I'm sorry but I want my kid to look at what Rose did; by rising above poverty and becoming arguably the best point guard in the game of basketball today. That's not a knock at all at Lin because his story is great, but Rose shows you that theirs almost absolutely no excuse from going out and getting what you want, no matter where your from; but then again I guess you can kind of argue that for Lin's story. Anyway bottom line, neither is better than the other unless your talking about skill, then D Rose and Lin aren't even in the same conversation.

  • In reply to Derek Hogberg:

    Hey Derek,

    Thanks for chiming in. I think that was the point I was trying to make with the blogger. gwill's point was that Jeremy Lin's a better role model... how? Because he didn't respond to racist comments by Jason Whitlock and Floyd Mayweather? That's not much of an argument.

  • I think the more obvious argument is in the flawed logic. You can't claim Lin is a better role model than Rose solely on the fact that Lin didn't comment on something that Rose has not encountered yet.

    How do we know how Rose would react in the same situation if he's never been there?

  • In reply to Wingman:

    Hey Wingman,

    I too believe gwill's logic was flawed. So far, Lin and Rose are both role models but the story in how they became role models are different; agreeing to your point that it's comparing apples to oranges.

    To both Wingman and Derek, how much do you think gwill's argument was based of race?

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    Like I stated above It sounded as if he doesn't think rose is a better role model bc he's black and tatted head to toe, i mean why else bring this subject up. That or he's just trying to get his name out there more and he nailed it by writing this ridiculous comparison, knowing true loyal Chicagoan's wouldn't stand for such a disrespectful article towards our home grown superstar hero!!!! Go D Rose keep balling and helping your community as you see fit, because what you've done so far has been great and don't let know one tell you different!!!

  • In reply to Derek Hogberg:

    I think its more of the latter than the former. As they say, "There is no such thing as bad publicity". However, if that is the angle you are going to go with as a writer, choose something in which you actually have evidence, which actually makes sense, to support your claims. Don't tell me Jeremy Lin is a better basketball player because Derrick Rose eats skittles. (example)

  • wow, yea the chicago chivalry guy had no argument...lol...so Rose is not as good as a role model, because there aren't any public racial slurs about him? That's his only point? By the way, I'm guessing Rose hears or has heard plenty of racial slurs in his lifetime and obviously never did anything drastic enough about them to make news...And his point about how sports players used to all be humble and all that...uh no...there have always been morons in sports, so yes, it's okay to give Rose credit for that and everything else he does...this whole Rose role model thing is so weird to me, why people gotta try knocking on him? On a different note, I can't wait til Bulls play the Knicks and D-Rose gets pumped up to play the new point guard interest, you know he's gonna be excited for that one.

  • this is one of the best (if not the best) articles I've seen on ChicagoNow. I read gwillchi's article/opion piece and could not have disagreed more.

    Thank you for recognizing two very stellar, talented athletes that also happen to be pretty decent human beings....

  • the SAT controversy is a fair question to ask. Me and gwill have butted heads in the past so he's not racist hogberg is saying. Lin and D.rose are both role models in different ways.

  • Thanks Q, I'll need to mention the same thing I told Kyle Trompeter on my post:

    "A lot of people seem to be missing this point: the no comment issue is not a support for the thesis. It's noted, but I'm essentially indifferent to it.

    We all know the story of these two players that it goes without saying. Rose is a role model. Our city is blessed with talented and driven kids & young people. Rose is not the first Chicago athlete to make Chicago proud and he will not be the last. Our city is lucky in that way. Rose is humble and hard working, like I stated, these are traits we all should strive for, and everything today suggests Lin exhibits these traits as well. Lin's immigrant story, and the region of the world where his parents come from, are not common in the NBA. Lin's Harvard education is, again, not common in the NBA. Lin's D-league background and the multiple cuts he endured to putting up the points and assists he has put up is, again, not common in the NBA. Lin's failure to garner any athletic scholarships after high school is, again, not common in the NBA. Even his strong Christian views are not common, but I feel this to be changing in professional sports. I’m not even going to get into his current living arrangements. But you know all this. Despite all these things, or because of them, he’s putting up the numbers he’s putting up and performing the way he is. When you say somebody came out of nowhere, there is essentially no better example. I view the total as exceptional. Granted, it's still a subjective view. It's an opinion. I may also change my mind if (or when) Jeremy Lin screws up. The media may break the man, and that will be a test of his character as well."

    Thanks for the piece.

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    much better article then your buddy gwill. your obviously more in tune with sports, pop culture, and proper journalism. thank you!

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