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Phillies To Play Red Sox in 2011 World Series

Texas Rangers pitcher Cliff Lee looks to the score board in between pitches against the San Francisco Giants during the third inning of game 5 of the World Series at Rangers Ballpark in Arlington, Texas on November 1, 2010. The Giants defeated the Rangers 3-1 winning the World Series 4 games to 1. UPI/Kevin Dietsch Photo via Newscom

I didn't see that one coming either, Cliff.

The Philadelphia Phillies, who only a year ago dismayed their fans by trading away Lee in the name of organizational depth, rallied to reach an agreement with the ace left-hander and emerge with the deepest rotation in baseball, sources said Monday night. Sources indicated the deal was for five years and $120 million, with a vesting option for a sixth year that would pay him a maximum of $135 million, less than he could have gotten from the Yankees or Rangers.

The Rangers, the team Lee helped to the World Series in October, offered Lee a six-year, $138 million deal with a vesting option for a seventh year that could have hiked the deal to $161 million. The Yankees also offered six years and $138 million, with a seventh-year player option for an additional $16 million.

Operating in stealth mode through the weekend, the Phillies added Lee to a staff that already held Roy Halladay(notes), Roy Oswalt(notes) and Cole Hamels

I have basically two thoughts this morning: 1) Kudos to SI's Jon Heyman, who took a lot of abuse this week for insisting that a "mystery team" was "in hard" on Lee. Turns out he was right. 2) Hahahahaha to Jason Werth for having to face a rotation with Lee, Hallady, Hamels, and Oswalt a billion times a season.

 

Not a creature is stirring in Cubsland this morning, but I'll continue to scour the interwebs when I get back from Court.

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Doc said:

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I have to be honest...I wasn't 100% convinced that there was a 3rd team in the mix, but as I tried to think about which team he might consider a better alternative to the Rangers or Yankees, I actually believed it was the Phillies.

Another thing about that...when Lee was traded last year, a number of people said that Philadelphia could very well make a serious stab at getting him back when he hit free agency and that's why the trade seemed to get Halladay seemed to make tremendous sense.

In the end, that is exactly what happened and the Phillies are now set up to be really good for an extended amount of time now.

JulieDiCaro said:

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I can't remember when another rotation was so loaded. I don't even think the Braves' rotation of the 90s was so tough on paper.

Doc said:

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Really...that Braves staff had 3 perennial Cy Young candidates (like the Phillies) and one potential all-star. Avery had 3 really good years, Denny Neagle has 2 excellent years with them, Kevin Millwood, even Mike Hampton pitched fairly well for them. At this point, I'd put those guys' seasons as a 4th starter up against Cole Hamels.

plamorte said:

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So Doc, Lee, Hamels, Oswalt, Blanton (for now)?

Dempster, Zambrano, Wells, Silva, Gorzelanny (for now)?

We're not that far behind...

*sobbing*

Doc said:

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While the Phillies haven't won the World Series the last two seasons, they have set themselves up to get to the playoffs for many years to come which gives them a shot at winning the title almost every year. This is a technique the Cubs don't seem to be very good at. The Cubs set themselves up for a single run at the playoffs and hope that they can get lucky in that one season and then have to suffer the consequences for 3 or 4 years before they can make another attempt at it.

Pretty sad.

HackWilson09 said:

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I can only think of a handful of teams that a better at intentionally fielding a terrible team than the Cubs. The Royals and Pirates have been wonderful at this for years. Since McPhail took over, you can add the Orioles to the list. But that's about it.

What Hendry is doing this winter is a humiliating abomination. Any Cubs fan who is finding reasons to be optimistic this year are truly deluded. This will be a cellar season, and the Ricketts family are beginning their slide into bankruptcy.

Doc said:

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For the amount of money they spend, the Mets and Mariners are right up there with the Cubs too.

HackWilson09 said:

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Shame on any GM who willingly accepts Milton Bradley onto their team.

Isn't it weird tough, really? How teams like the Phillies, Red Sox and Yankees are always good, yet they always try to get better? How they are smart enough to let Werth go get a Soriano-like talent (although he is a more valuable player) in order to save up for a pitcher with Cliff Lee's impact?

What are the Cubs saving up for? Once they clear the books, just what kind of horrid mistake will they make with their money next year? I'm guessing they'll miss out on Puhols and then give 160 million to the fat guy.

HackWilson09 said:

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"soriano-like money" i meant

matt said:

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No you are far behind in pitching look at the stats dumbass the only one on there that you can top is blanton and by the way when was the last time chicago won the world series?

JulieDiCaro said:

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Geez---no need to be so nasty. We know we suck.

Doc said:

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I fear Matt's nastiness is the start of a lot of infighting between Cubs fans in 2011. This is very likely not going to be a pleasant season and frustration is going to pop up everywhere.

plamorte said:

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please please please tell me you really did catch the sarcasm in the "we're not that far behind" comment. Please.

Doc said:

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obviously he didn't after reading the rest of his comments.

HackWilson09 said:

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Hi, Matt.

We are all dumbasses. We are Cub fans that never figured out how to quit.

Come join us for our next holiday party where we gather together at a bar to hit ourselves over the head with ball-peen hammers. God, it hurts.

BYOH

sloan peterson said:

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I'll bet the Rangers feel a little let down: they had Lee for a fraction of a season, didn't win the World Series, and now he's headed back to the Phillies. Maybe the wife and kids had some say- they get to go back home, rather than adjust to a new city for the next 5 years....

Doc said:

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Supposedly, he really liked playing in Philadelphia...I'm sure part of that had to do with his family liking the town of brotherly hate as well.

plamorte said:

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and didn't Yankees fans spit on his wife or something?

Doc said:

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Something like that...but she didn't realize that's how you express affection for someone in New York.

berselius said:

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It's a good thing that Philly fans have a much better reputation than NY fans. Oh, wait...

plamorte said:

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Who knows where this brings the Phils, Cliff Lee is CURSED anyway. He has been on the last two World Series losers after all...

Doc said:

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Very good point...

I could live with being a World Series loser...we should have signed him and we'd be in our first WS since 1945. Geez.

matt said:

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he was alone in texas they had no other great starters and now the phils have 4 great starters, texas's starters were too young and inconsistent to be called great

ELRaythar said:

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The only thing stopping the Phils from winning it all next season is if we vote them as our postseason team.

Doc said:

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I jinxed them last season...you all were cheering for the Twins...I was for the Phils...We killed them both, but at least the Phils won a few games.

secdelahc said:

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So here's the plan: We root for all the teams in MLB except the Cubs, all season long, and then maybe the Cubs can get to the WS. Right? Nah, even the Cubs would find a way to jinx our collective jinxiness.

Doc said:

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I've got the pirates.

secdelahc said:

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Something tells me they can suck without our help...

matt said:

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stop talking about the cubs when they are just flat out dredful and going through a time where they're trying to get rid of players but their contracts are too big

plamorte said:

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you're right, what's the point of talking about the Cubs on a Cubs blog anyway

secdelahc said:

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Why would we want to do that? I'd much rather talk about the awesomeness of the Orioles.

Doc said:

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Pirates

HackWilson09 said:

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Hi, Matt.

You spelled "dreadful" wrong, but you did nail the words "they're" and "their". Good effort. I give you a B+.

So what shall we talk about. How 'bout soccer?!!

sloan peterson said:

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Perhaps we could focus on individual baseball players,thus creating an internet version of the SI jinx...

gravedigger said:

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any reason to pay attention at all next season? to the cubs, i mean?

matt said:

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nope they suck

sloan peterson said:

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Can someone give this guy a dictionary so he can use words other than "suck"? Or this is going to get tired fast....

Doc said:

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or just some grammer guide to the uses of punctuation.

sloan peterson said:

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We could set up a pool to see when certain players get hurt, traded, of DFA....

JulieDiCaro said:

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that's not a bad idea . . .

gravedigger said:

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actually, it is a great idea! finally something i can get behind around these parts

HackWilson09 said:

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Hell yeah. As the value of the team plummets, they may actually become affordable. By the end of 2011 we can all pool our money and buy them!

My plan is to tear down Wrigley and move them offshore. No state taxes, and you can gamble in the bleachers.

gravedigger said:

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I'm strongly in favor of this idea.

gravedigger said:

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Fucking comment monster is back.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Gotta kinda wonder now if the Yanks will be interested in Zambrano.

Doc said:

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Or if Zambrano will be interested in the Yankees?

Only people in Chicago are talking about this because they want Z gone. It ain't going to happen. Besides, the Yankees have nothing to offer that we'd take.

berselius said:

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Think of the scrap-gasm if the Cubs somehow came away with Brett Gardner. It would be doubly hilarious because the Cubs would then have approximately 192159 outfielders.

Doc said:

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I don't see the Yankees giving up Gardner anyway. This whole thing is being dreamed up by Chicago media members who have been trying to drive Z out of town for years.

FrankS said:

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In case Matt hasn't checked back in, the Cubs suck.

gravedigger said:

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If this happens, i seriously am not following this team this year.

Realize that threat means nothing to anybody. Just saying I won't do it.

Doc said:

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Ok...the Pirates signed Lyle Overbay to play first...

Who will regret their 1st baseman choice more, the Cubs or Pirates?

JulieDiCaro said:

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Does that mean Garrett Jones is available?

Yes, please.

Doc said:

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Two things about that statement...

First, Garrett Jones is likely to go into the outfield, I'd imagine.

Second, my wife, who's maiden name is Jones, has a cousin named Garrett. He's a professional golfer and was on the Hooters Tour this past year.

HackWilson09 said:

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I had a tour of Hooters once. It was a pretty lame bachelor party, and I threw up twice.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Does he look like the real Garrett Jones?

Doc said:

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The only on-line picture I can find of him is here...just search for Garrett Jones on that page and you'll find his picture. I'm no judge on such things.

Karen said:

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I add pretty pretty please with a cherry on top to this. I was really hoping he could be our first baseman before we signed Pena.

JulieDiCaro said:

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No kidding. ME TOO.

gravedigger said:

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Meh. Does nothin for me.

HackWilson09 said:

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How about Starr Jones?

Doc said:

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If I was on the other team, I'd be scared to pitcher to her.

Doc said:

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nice, Doc...good typing.

flyball said:

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maybe if the Phillies are perennial winners the fans in Philadelphia will stop throwing things? that would be good

gravedigger said:

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OMG we have a troll in our midst.

I'm giddy.

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