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Opening Day Photos: Wrigley, Target Field, and Rhinestones

It's no secret that there's been quite a debate Cubs fans about what should be done with Wrigley Field. Keep it? Renovate it? Knock it down and start over? Move it to Naperville? Personally, I've always wanted to see Wrigley renovated; maintaining the integrity of the park while updating the facilities, a la Fenway Park. That is, until this weekend. While in Minneapolis for a wedding this weekend (Congrats Laura and Brian!) I was lucky enough to get to poke...

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flyball said:

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I don't think there is a game today, unless its Wednesday instead of Tuesday in which case I'm completely screwed for my big deadline

Doc said:

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No game today...

But I just scored tickets for tomorrow's game...and might even go to Thursday's too.

JulieDiCaro said:

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what? we have an off-day after the first game of the series?

yeah--that makes a lot of sense.

Doc said:

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It does if you are an idiot.

AndCounting said:

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Guy bathroom update: a lot of those "ambassadors" get to just camp out among the troughs. My mid-game visit was anything but brief. I can't remember the lines ever being that bad in the Wrigley men's room. (By the way, old fat man, no need to repeatedly bump your beer belly into my back to try to speed things along; you can go ahead of me, although I'm sure your enlarged prostate will do what it can to keep things moving slowly.) Having stadium employees stationed at (i.e. blocking) the exits might have had something to do with it. But it also appeared that they might have replaced some of the troughs with individual pee pee stations (I say this to avoid using the crass "urinal" term; I refuse to type "urinal" in a public forum). I can't remember if the IPPS's were in existence before. They looked new. I tried to get a picture, but that exercise didn't go as well as I'd hoped.

JulieDiCaro said:

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there were huge lines for EVERYTHING. every bathroom, to get out of every bathroom, for beer, for food, i presume for cubs gear. i've never seen anything like that at wrigley.

i can't help but wonder if all the "ambassadors" and employees are doing more harm than good.

AndCounting said:

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I give them a one-week grace period, although I won't be around to check up on them. You make changes in personnel and procedure, day 1 is bound to be a rough transition. Hopefully by game 12 or so they'll figure out how to streamline things a bit more.

Oh, and holy freaking crap, what an awesome day it was! As opening days go, it was absolutely beautiful.

JulieDiCaro said:

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most of the ambassadors i saw were just standing there grinning like idiots.

Doc said:

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Yeah, that's what I saw too.

Max Power said:

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They seem reminiscent of the yellow-jacketed traffic folks in the Loop. They actually make traffic worse -- I'd prefer if they'd follow City of Chicago protocol and just get paid for a job for which they never show up.

Ed Nickow said:

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I used two different men's rooms. The smaller one near the Waveland grandstand gate had no urinals and a shorter line. The much larger bathroom, along the third base line, was newly "renovated" with urinals and (as a result, IMO) had a much longer line. Once I was inside, it was clear that the line was from people waiting for urinals (3-4 per IPPS) because the troughs, while in full use, did not have more than 1 person waiting for each "position". And because the urinals are near the front we had to weave through the crowd to get to the troughs.

While I was waiting in that line I presciently tweeted:

Waiting in long line / To enter Wrigley men's room / Lousy urinals

I missed more than half an inning. Granted, the 1/2 inning was the top of the 6th when Dempster threw only 10 pitches, but I've never missed even half an inning going to pee at Wrigley.

I predicted this on my blog over the weekend.

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-sports-in-haiku/2010/04/urination-haiku-wrigley-bathroom-renovation.html

JulieDiCaro said:

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same with angelene and me. we missed an entire inning waiting in line. GAH.

Edelweiss said:

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Be careful what you say. You may negatively impact the sale of beer.

Doc said:

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Well...one thing that was evident was that they did indeed expand the bathrooms. They knocked out a couple of the ramps in the lower deck (replacing them with stairs) to make room for the expansion...

But, you might find this hard to believe, I did go into one of the bathrooms yesterday. I was so caught up in everything that I never even thought about going.

Go figure.

Overall, I thought the ballpark looked a little nicer...clear...a lot of new paint was applied...but overall, I didn't see much of a difference. The scoreboard did look extremely sharp. The removal of the concrete panels really didn't make anything seem all that much better.

But it's Wrigley...and it isn't going away...and I've learned to deal with that. (But, Julie, it is nice to see you start to come around about the real truth about Wrigley. We deserve much better.

flyball said:

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I will not get sucked into this discussion today, I will not get sucked into this discussion today, I will not get sucked into this discussion today, I will not get sucked into this discussion today

Doc said:

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yes you will.

flyball said:

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no I will not

Doc said:

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Wrigley Field sucks.

flyball said:

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I only deal in specifics, sorry

Doc said:

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Oh...sorry...Wrigley Field sucks donkeys.

AndCounting said:

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Post of the day.

flyball said:

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that is not a valid architectural ctitique

Doc said:

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The seats are cramped, the aisles are way too narrow and the place smells like urine.

How's that?

Umbra said:

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1. The Cubs don't play until tomorrow. No, I do not know why.

2. Links to "Phat burgers" and the especially appalling "Why Does Obama Bow Like A Weakling" are reasons 1 and 2 that I continue to be suspicious of ChicagoNOW. The pandering that this place does to our lizard-brains is unbelievable. I'm not saying that a Chicago Cubs sports blog is or needs to be high-brow, or that I'd much prefer a banner teaser for a post discussing single vs double Predestination or Kant's Critique of Aesthetic Judgment or anything.

I'm just saying, let's go easy on the "Boobs! Meat! Sports! Obama=Weak!" motif.

thisyearcub said:

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I'm sure CN looks for anything that is "controversy-driven" to help hits/make up for the countless other problems. They're basically begging for more blogs. (pitch us your blog ideas, please!)

There's a major identity crisis going on, and no one knows what from what.

Doc said:

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Oh...and one side note, I saw the rickettses wandering around before and during the game...they were having a blast. I'm glad they are our owners.

flyball said:

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thank you for the pictures julie!

Umbra said:

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What's your take on the architecture, fb?

I'd describe it as Fazlur Khan meets Washington Roebling meets Boof Bonser.

Doc said:

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I love that ballpark...I did some snooping around it back in December. They have a true gem up there in Minnesota.

JulieDiCaro said:

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i actually thought it was pretty ugly when i saw it last winter fro the highway. but up close, it's pretty amazing.

flyball said:

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stylistically its more removed from my usual tastes than I thought it would be, the overall volumes (especially on the piece with the great window wall) I really appreciate and I think their choice of stone shades was a good one to break up the blank wall plus I love when the material is carried from exterior to interior, I do love some of the longer exterior facades that can be really annoying but here looks like maintain a more interesting dynamic feel. for some reason I thought it would be much more severely geometric with uninterupted volumes which is probably a result of mostly seeing the single shot of the glazing

I would definitely love to see this one in person

Doc said:

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I'm planning to see a game up there some time this year...my sister live in Mini apple sauce...so I'm planning to take her family and mine to see a game up there. I can't wait.

MN Pat said:

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Look me up when you get here!

And as to the day off after a home opener, perhaps I can help there. They explained it on the news last night for those people not used to outdoor baseball. It's meant to be a built-in make-up day in case weather on opening day is really crappy.

JulieDiCaro said:

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i took another one just for you . . but it didn't show up for some reason. it was of these cool giant wood "blinds" (for lack of a better term)that keep the club area in the shade. i've never seen wood incorporated into a ballpark like that before.

flyball said:

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like a a brise soleil? seriously? and wood? like a light wood, or something that is meant to weather?

nice

JulieDiCaro said:

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i would say it was more of a cedar or cherry. let me find the photo. . .

Doc said:

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Funny story...as I said, I didn't actually use the bathroom at Wrigley yesterday, but the guy next to me did...he came back and told me that he got into the bathroom and there was a Brewer fan doing his business in the trough...it was crowded in there and so this guy told the Brewer fan..."Hey, this isn't the side where the visiting fans are allowed to pee, you need to go to the other side." The Brewer fan stopped, zipped up his pants and went to the other side of the bathroom and waited for a spot to open up to finish.

I cracked up when this guy told me this...stupid brewers fan! I just hope that this was a true story. LOL!!!

Doc said:

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Ok...my apology to Julie...

I've made fun of you for the bolt that you put in your nose a few weeks ago. Well, it had been a while since I made trip to Chicago. I guess everyone and their mother is getting studs put in their nose...the girl a couple seats down from me had one. The pregnant girl a couple rows down had one...and the gal tending bar after the game had one...so I guess that's like the 'in' thing right now for women in Chicago. So it was wrong for me to make fun of your thingy in your nose. I'm sorry.

AndCounting said:

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I think you just have a lot more people to make fun of.

Doc said:

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Oh...but the bartender did give me a good deal on the drinks.

JulieDiCaro said:

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oh shut up. geez, my parents took it better than you.

i didn't get it because it's the "in" thing to do. actually, fashion-wise, it's probably passe. but since i was a little girl i've always loved them on indian and pakistani women. i just think they're pretty. so i got one. end of story.

Doc said:

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I'm cool with that. I did find it funny that I noticed so many people with them yesterday, though. I guess I just never looked...lol.

JulieDiCaro said:

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my mom didn't notice for like, an hour, then, right in the middle of the conversation she stops, and goes "wait, what's in your nose?"

Doc said:

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That sounds like something my mom would do....lol.

Teebob2000 said:

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Followed immediately by her spitting into a tissue to wipe your face. Thanks, mom.

gravedigger said:

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Weird, I always thought you were Italian.

Doc said:

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Ok...I had one major complaint yesterday...

I stupidly got an italian beef at the ballpark. Usually I get one at Wrigleyville Dogs before the game, but I decided to try and see if the food was any better.

I got a beef sandwich, on stale bread, with cold meat, and it cost $7.50!?!?!?!?!

WTF! Worst Italian Beef ever! BOO new improved concessions! (But the price of beer remained the same.)

Umbra said:

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I read that Miller Park is the only stadium where Brats outsell Hot Dogs. WTF is wrong with everywhere else?

JulieDiCaro said:

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We like polish sausage better.

also, hot dogs are easier to find at wrigley. you have to actively search out other kinds of encased meats.

Umbra said:

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I kind of get it at Wrigley, where the "Chicago-style Hot Dog" is a legitimate folk-food. I would never pass up a brat for one, but De gustibus non est disputandum and all that.

But I don't think other places around the country have their own storied history of encased meats specific to their area. So why are hot dogs the default- just their association with baseball in general?

canopygrl said:

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because a hot dog at the ball park is better than a steak at the Ritz~ Humphrey Bogart

Edelweiss said:

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Miller Park is more people friendly, so they sell Klements sausages. The food there is far superior to Wrigley. They also understand that when you drink peer, you have to off-load it, so they have enough bathroom space for everyone, and you don't have to miss much of the game to pee.

JulieDiCaro said:

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I didn't wind up getting the giant pretzel. Tim was tweeting and Angelene was walking around and I just knew I would wind up eating that whole, freakin' $15 pretzel myself.

Doc said:

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I pretty much just had beef and beers..

I don't remember what the price was for hot dogs last year...but I saw the Jumbo ones were $4.50.

I think I'm going to have to try some other stuff. But I'm going to stick with my tradition of going to Wrigleyville Dogs for a beef before each game I think.

JulieDiCaro said:

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My Mai-Tai was $8.00!!!

One of the ads in the concourse was for a huge 2-liter of the mai-tai mix they use at Wrigley. Next time, I'm bringing that in.

thisyearcub said:

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Just sneak airplane bottles in ... that's def. the way to go.

Doc said:

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My mom used to sneak in wine that she put in a thermos...they'd ask her what was in it when she entered the ballpark, and she'd say "it's lemonade"...and they'd let her right in.

Doc said:

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That had better have been the best Mai Tai of your life.

baturkey said:

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If it was a Manhattan bar that would be cheap.

Edelweiss said:

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At the Oktoberfest, you can get a liter of REAL beer, and a pretzel 12 inches wide for less than that.

David Funk said:

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Love the pics, Julie! I did catch the Cubs game on WGN yesterday and then seen the Twins and their great new ballpark while I was working out. I hope to get to a game at both ballparks soon.

Nice to see some offense from the Cubs yesterday, too! Thanks for sharing the pics!

thisyearcub said:

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No game today, just like there was an off day in between games last week. Home opener policy. Get on top of things!!!

For future reference J, always check out http://isthereacubsgametoday.com/

Clears it right up

baturkey said:

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I think it's so that there is a convenient make up day if the weather is bad for the first day.

Doc said:

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That is the theory behind it.

Also, supposedly, opening day is quite a drain for teams...for on field personnel and off field personnel. If I were to make a guess, the organizations are the ones that actually request this quirk in the schedule.

Eric From The Dugs said:

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Ummmmm.... OK I may have a brilliant idea, but I'm not powerful enough to start the trend myself.

That picture of Marlon Byrd with the upside down W sign got me thinking...

An upside down W is an M!!!!

Marlon starts with M!!!!

What if the bleacher faithful held up a plethora of M's as Marlon runs out to the field?

Huh? Anybody? Looking for an internet high five here...

Doc said:

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That actually was quite funny...he tried to throw that sign back into the bleachers 3 times before he gave up and took it to an usher.

JulieDiCaro said:

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high-five!

Eric From The Dugs said:

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Thank god!

I don't know if my ego could have taken a cyber-left hanging.

Cubs Psychologist said:

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This day off in the middle of series does get on my nerves, too. However, got some good stuff in the mail yesterday after a not-so-good day in the Doc's office. Got my copy of "We Believe" yesterday and was quite impressed with it. It definitely got my Cubs juices flowing. I'm going to watch it again tonight with the Fam...since there is no game today!!! Go Cubs!! Thanks, Julie for the pics.

baturkey said:

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I'm a fan of the team, not necessarily the stadium. I do like not having giant video screens, though. I can watch the game on TV at home.

Also, add me to the list of people attending LOHO day!

JulieDiCaro said:

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Woot!

itsjenjen said:

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I've been thinking for awhile now that the Cubs need a new ballpark. A few years ago I wouldn't have said that, but after seeing some of the state-of-the-art facilities others teams have, I realize how outdated Wrigley is. Could it be a disadvantage to the Cubs by not having as good of facilities as other teams?

Some will spite me for saying that, but what is more important-a ballpark, or a ball club? Unfortunately when buildings make it this long and are considered "historic", it's hard to let them go.

Doc said:

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I'd be the first person to take the wrecking ball to the place. I just wish the tribune would have chosen me to be the new owner...but my bid of $13.32 to buy the team was just a bit too low.

itsjenjen said:

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You outbid me.

Doc said:

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Yeah...my source told me that it came down to the Rickettses and me...Obviously the fact that I lived in Wisconsin worked against me.

JulieDiCaro said:

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By the way, Wrigleyville23 informs me that the past tense is "TOOTBLANd."

JulieDiCaro said:

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For those who missed it, the Mariners have ALREADY had to talk with Milton about his behavior. So far he's smashed a bat to pieces, put a shoulder into a young catcher during ST, and flipped off the fans in Houston.

thisyearcub said:

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It was Oakland, not Houston. His former fans were ripping him a new one.

Milton is seriously going to kill someone soon if this keeps up. Like, totally snap. Upside is at least it'll make idiot fans think twice about booing.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Oh right. Actually, I think I thought it was in Texas. Whatever.

At this point, he deserves to get booed for not being able to keep it together. I boo him as a human being.

Umbra said:

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Reed Johnson boos himself.

Doc said:

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I was listening to the Sox-BlueJays game last night...

And I never knew Blue Jays fans to be mean, but the booed Alex Rios to pieces last night.

I didn't know he left on such bad terms...but from research, I guess there is a you-tube video of him yelling a some autograph seekers or something.

itsjenjen said:

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The finger was at Arlington. He broke the bat over his leg at the season opener in Oakland. Stay tuned for our next episode when Milton de-pantses the Mariner Moose.

AndCounting said:

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20, 30 years ago, I don't think Milton's antics would barely raise an eyebrow. Trouble he has gotten into off the field in years past is another matter entirely, but the stuff that makes headlines these days is him being angry and/or intense. I don't get it.

Doc said:

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The thing about Seattle is that it is fully of peace loving hippies. As a result, Milton's behavior is completely unacceptable by these people.

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It's too bad that the Schaumburg Cubs didn't become a reality in the mid-late 80s. Moving back then may have helped the Cubs break the losing cycle. Plus, going to a (men's) restroom at Wrigley during that era was akin to a gunfight at the OK Corral: everybody circle 'round, then DRAW! From what I remember of my most recent visit to Wrigley, things hadn't improved all that much.

Replant the ivy and build a new stadium. Break tradition. But they can't even do that with their ST site, and, frankly, why would management care so long as they can keep filling the bleachers.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Bleh. No one wants to go to Schaumburg. Though it would make shopping more convenient.

Doc said:

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I don't think I would have ever moved away from Chicago if the Cubs played in Schaumburg (as I lived in Palatine during my high school years).

flyball said:

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can you imagine the nightmare of Woodfield and baseball traffic combined, and then you want to head northeast and you hit track traffic?

Teebob2000 said:

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Only problem is I'm guessing the players union would complain to OSHA that having a brick wall in the outfield is unsafe working conditions. Does ivy grow on padding??

thisyearcub said:

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That's quite possibly the greatest thing I've seen in a while. Kudos to that guy.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Ben Roethlisberger is a huge piece of shit. Dodged two rape allegations, one in which the victim comes out bruised and bleeding. Apparently, there is at least a 3rd allegation out there. I hope Roger Goodell suspends him for the season.


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The biggest red flag to me was the public statement that came out immediately after the first allegation surfaced. It said, "Ben Roethlisberger has never assaulted a woman, especially not that woman."

Yeah. If Big Ben were to rape someone, it wouldn't be you, honey. The statement was released during the hubbub over whether anyone should even cover the story because it was such an outlandish accusation, and no one said a word. I found it immensely troubling both for the specific case and the overall credibility of Roethlisberger.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Apparently the physical evidence in this case was just sickening. He took a girl drunk to the point of passing out into a bathroom, and she came out bruised, bleeding, and disoriented. At the very least, it was incredibly ungentlemanly.

Just saw his presser. He's wearing a polo shirt, unshaven, disgusting greasy hair, and no apology to the victim, just to the fans for "what happened."

For some reason I can't post links right now, but there's an article out there about a 3rd allegation against Roethlisberger. Disgusting.

Teebob2000 said:

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Allegedly. We don't want anyone getting into trouble unnecessarily.

Cubs Psychologist said:

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He did look horrible. He should've received additional charges for looking like Chester the Molester.

Umbra said:

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That's something for the courts to decide, Jules. I understand that based on your personal experience you do not trust the court system to serve justice, but I hardly think that setting up Roger Goodell as Chief Arbiter is very just either.

I think you want Goodell to suspend Roethlisberger because you are sure he is guilty. Are you willing to give Goodell this power when he is deciding a case on a player you think is innocent?

I'm not.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Well, Art Rooney is so disgusted word is that he's thinking about suspending Ben himself.

And yes, I am. Private employers can suspend employees as they see fit. I'm quite certain it's in Roethlisberger's contract or the NFL CBA.

And the courts aren't going to get to decide, the prosecutor isn't filing charges because it's he said/she said and Roethlisberger's entourage covered his ass.

Even Amante Toomer just said he hopes Ben gets a lengthy suspension.

Umbra said:

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Fair enough. I have my reservations about "Private employers can suspend employees as they see fit."

I just can't think of a better alternative. Touche, internet debater.

JulieDiCaro said:

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LOL.

No, I mean, think about it. If you work for a private employer on a contract basis, that contract almost ALWAYS includes what disciplinary measures they have at their disposal and on what basis they can fire you. If you don't have a contract, they have even MORE leeway.

I don't have a copy of the NFL CBA right in front of me, but I'll but $1 million it's got a suspension for conduct unbecoming clause in it.

Umbra said:

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I think you're right: I think the NFL CBA has a personal conduct policy or something in it. And if Roethlisberger thinks that infringes on his rights, no one was holding a gun to his head to sign the contract.

I just think the terms of that contract are kinda ridiculous. It's not fair to punish a person at work for things they did (or didn't) do outside of work. However, if they were removed it would also be unfair: the league would suffer loss of revenue because of Roethlisberger being a terrible guy.

thisyearcub said:

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I can shed some light on this. The CBA and personal conduct policy are two totally separate things. The latter was created by Goodell a couple of years ago and allows him to take action even if a player is found not guilty.

I seriously doubt Roethlisberger will be suspended a whole year (especially since the evidence to prosecute was not nearly what people made it out to be), but I'm sure he'll get two or three games.

I'm a little skeptical about this third allegation, just as I was at the countless amount of girls who "suddenly" came out and said they had sex with Tiger Woods. It's just kind of odd timing this attorney would come out with this news six months later, and then call a Boston sports radio station to report it.

All in all though, it's time for Big Ben to start staying indoors, and especially stop hanging out at college bars.

Teebob2000 said:

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And for God's sake, DON'T get married!

JulieDiCaro said:

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Oh give me a break Matt. The rest of guys in pro sports manage to get through their careers without rape allegations but poor Ben gets stuck with 3? Because he's just so unlucky?

Give me a break. Even the Steelers fans don't believe it was all smoke and no fire--ESPN was playing their Pittsburgh feed on the radio this afternoon.

I can tell you after spending many many months in criminal court: not nearly as many girls make these things up as guys seem to believe. It's not worth it.

thisyearcub said:

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Lol. Do you follow sports? There's been a ton of rape allegations against others. Um, Kobe?

I think you're misunderstanding. I def. think something went on with the second girl, but I guess not enough to prosecute. The first girl sounds sketchy (seriously, she was the one who told friends she wanted to be "impregnated") and the third girl, yeah, I hold to my original skepticism. Again, why not come forward six months ago and again, why the hell are you calling a Boston sports radio station to report this? Too strange.

Not trying to make BR out as a good guy, obv. he has some issues and I do think a suspension is warranted (not a year though, hell Leonard Little had a DUI manslaughter and he didn't even get a year). I was really just trying to explain the CBA to everyone and clear it up.

JulieDiCaro said:

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I still think Kobe was guilty. Why not come forward? Are you serious? Do you SEE what women have to deal with when they come forward? It takes a really strong person to put up with that--I'm not sure I'd have the guts to do it.

As for the 2nd girl, she was so intoxicated that she didn't remember anything. The case was largely built around the severity of her injuries. Lester Munn told ESPN that all Ben's buddies refused to say they saw anything, even though the girl's friends were pretty adamant about what went on. I don't know why they don't just charge him with a lesser offense of her being too drunk to consent, but maybe there's no such law in Georgia.

Munn also said the DA was pretty freakin' disgusted with Ben, the girl's injuries, and all of Ben's entourage, but he couldn't prove what everyone was pretty sure went on.

Many prosecutors won't try a case unless they're sure they can win. It's sad but true.

thisyearcub said:

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She can always go civil, but she may not want to out herself.

And I can understand that it is hard to come forward, but let's also agree calling a Boston sports radio station is kind of a weird way to announce things.

JulieDiCaro said:

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I was talking more about just anyone's employer (they can dock your pay or fire you or whatever). But yes, you're right about the player conduct policy.

Doc said:

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If the NFL doesn't suspend him, than Pac-Man Jones should sue. (and Julie can be his lawyer)

JulieDiCaro said:

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I would totally take that case. Plaxico can sue, too. Rape

Karen said:

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Doc...Fremd or Palatine?

Doc said:

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kiwibob said:

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Does it have pictures of giant pretzels?

gravedigger said:

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Make it a museum and build a real stadium.

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