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Chicago Cubs Headlines Thursday Oct 15

Texas Rangers Spring Training
Yeah, you over there, start hitting

Seems that everyone is jumping on the Jaramillo to Cubs bandwagon. Even ESPN is talking about it, and with the Yankees still in the playoffs ESPN talking about anything else is news in and of itself.

Unfortunately much beyond those rumors it gets pretty scarce (time to make up our own rumors perhaps?)

Oh, Brenly so far isn't Interviewing for the open managers position with the Astros That broadcasting duo is growing on me, he might still go somewhere, but not yet.
Clark was the first of two candidates the Astros had on the list to interview Wednesday. Pedrique, the club's director of minor league operations, was second.
Wade announced the club will interview Philadelphia Phillies bench coach Pete Mackanin on Saturday as well as former Astros manager Phil Garner. Former Milwaukee Brewers manager Ned Yost and San Diego Padres hitting coach Randy Ready will be interviewed today

staying in the NL I see.

Along those lines look over at The Rosenblog my highlights
The best offseason moves for the Cubs would be Tony La Russa and Dave Duncan leaving St. Louis, Milton Bradley getting traded for a used puck bag, and the Astros deciding not to interview Bob Brenly so far.
Seeing as how the Cubs are at such a disadvantage at manager, the worse that other teams get, the less embarrassing, asleep and inept Lou Piniella will seem.

and
Oh, and Brenly obviously is a guy who know the NL Central, having broadcast the last four seasons for Cubs television. What's more, his World Series came with a roster of largely veteran players, which is exactly the Astros' situation. Brenly wants to manage again and probably will. Selfishly, I want him to stay in the booth with Len Kasper, but if he has to go, Cubs fans better hope he goes to the NL East or West.
How's that for an offseason wish list, Cubs fans? Depending upon other teams to be dumber than yours. . . .

Isn't that the way it usually is?

Oh, did you know evidently we're lazy Turns out the morning sports radio hosts on WLS took a ratings hit, and the station is partly blaming Cubs fans
Fowler believes a major reason his Don Wade and Roma team took such a hit in the ratings was inertia among Cubs fans who simply tuned in to WGN for night games and were too lazy to reset their dials to WLS to pick up Don Wade and Roma the next morning. Indeed, since the baseball season began to wind down, Fowler has seen Don Wade and Roma's numbers start to improve from their September lows.

I love that we are too lazy to change the radio station, thats awesome

Its Oct 15, and boilers all around the country, at least in the north, are coming on line, yay for heat!

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gravedigger said:

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Jesus things are boring right now.

However, I get cable tomorrow, so I can watch the playoffs. Yay.

AndCounting said:

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That explains why MLB allowed such a huge gap in between series. They're allowing time for more cable converts.

gravedigger said:

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Exactly.

millertime said:

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Yeah, it might have been the Cubs fans that pulled down the Score's ratings. Or it could have been that the guys at The Score spend way too much time talking about what features they want to see added to their favorite pornography internet sites.

When I think of the score, I think of 28-45 year old guys working marketing jobs, drinking too much at the games, very little knowledge of sports, and a fascination with which strip club is located closest to the game so he can party like he's in Vegas afterwords. When I hear someone say "man, did you see that one waitress's rack at the restaurant last night, it was great!" and then a 15 minute conversation about where all the hot Chicago girls hang out, I immediately assume he works/listens/is a huge fan of/ the Score.

Something tells me this is not the image they want to project. Or maybe it is? I just don't get these things.

JulieDiCaro said:

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I've never heard anything like that on The Score, which I listen to frequently. I actually think Boers & Bernstein and Mike Mulligan and Lawrence Holmes are some of the best sports. . whatevers. . . personalities. . . in Chicago.

millertime said:

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I sometimes like Boers & Bernstein, cause they sometimes make sense. But sometimes they spend 20 minutes making inside jokes that aren't funny.

The other day, I think it was early afternoon before B&B, some guy was talking about how he wished there was a site that let him sort his adult films by which female star was paired with which male star. Call me old-fashioned, but I think that pornography preferences are a private matter, and not something to share with a larger listening audience. I also don't like the ads for strip clubs that I keep hearing. Isn't it enough that every sports program is surrounded by ads of people drinking/obsessing way too much about beer? Do we really need to add more vices to tempt people with? Can't there be a thing like Family Values associated with sports, and not social debauchery?

JulieDiCaro said:

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How do you think it feels to be a woman listening to The Score? They NEVER have commercials for MALE strip clubs!

Doc said:

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I know...it's awesome!

Doc said:

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Jaramillo = More Home Runs + more Strikeouts.

Me no likey.

millertime said:

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If you had to assign greek hereos/mythology to our players, who would you assign to and why?

Like, Aramis Ramirez could be Achilles, cause he's awesome, but vulnerable to injury?

The right field bleachers could The Sirens.

That stupid hill in Houston can be the Charybis.

Rich Harden's ass can be Helen of Troy.

AndCounting said:

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Rich Harden's huh? Whatever launches your ship. ;)

Aaron Miles would be my little Hercules. Just because it would be fun to do the Eddie Murphy "Hercules" claps in mock adulation.

And Milton Bradley would be Pandora's box.

gravedigger said:

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I don't think it does anything for millertime, but it does for a few others of us here. It's one of LOHO's little memes.

gravedigger said:

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I would be Zeus. That is all.

Umbra said:

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Bruce Miles as Hermes, winged messenger of the Olympians.

AndCounting said:

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I think there's some confusion here between WLS's Don Wade and Roma (AM 890) and the Score (AM 670). All Score-bashing is music to my heart, but the Sun-Times article is about the non-sports talk show on WLS.

Still, the accusations of laziness are ludicrous, because WGN airing night games is nothing new. WLS's market manager, Mike Fowler, putting the blame on the listeners (especially Cub fans) is infuriating and mind-boggling to me. He's right when he says nothing has changed with their morning show, which is far more likely to blame for the dip in listeners. A lot of other things have changed, and Fowler needs to cope with them instead of channeling Milton Bradley.

WGN has changed their morning vibe, and if listeners are more interested by that than what they've been hearing on WLS, the listeners aren't the lazy ones. Get it together, Focker, Fowler, or whatever your name is.

Also, Arbitron has changed its method for ratings gathering. They used to have listeners fill out listening journals, subject to serious inaccuracy. Now they have portable people meters that somehow track what participants are listening to all day. If lazy listeners were to blame for the ratings dip, they've probably been failing to change their dials and forgetting to account for that in their journals. Meanwhile, the head of WGN, as reported in the article, thinks the ratings are skewed by the paltry sample size of 900 listeners.

All in all, radio marketing managers tend to be annoying blowhards who understand neither their listeners nor their content. Asses.

flyball said:

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can't we just say they are the same thing?

AndCounting said:

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For all I know, they are. I listen to neither.

gravedigger said:

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Me too.

JulieDiCaro said:

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I don't listen to The Score in the morning because I still haven't forgiven them for giving Mike North his own show. And because I get sick of hearing about the White Sox all the time. And because I grew up listening to WGN in the morning.

AndCounting said:

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Mike F. North, ugh. If I wanted vomit in my ears, I'd use my own.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Gross.

I'd use someone really hot's.

flyball said:

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I'm not sure I knew there were other AM stations as a kid, there was WGN and FM

FrankS said:

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Depends on how old you are. I can remember 670AM when it was all news and then when it was Country. And how about SuperCFL on AM1000! Or back when WLS played Rock n Roll. But I'm not old enough to remember when WLS played Country.

Doc said:

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Mully and Hanley aren't too bad. But for the most part, I'm at the part of the year where I listen to my Styx and REO CD's in the car. There isn't anything interesting going on in Chicago sports during this time of the year that requires me to listen to sports talk radio.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Can someone please explain to me the allure of the apparently charming Rudy Jarmarillo? When I think "hitting," I don't exactly think "Texas Rangers."

gravedigger said:

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I don't know, it had something to do with helping a couple of challenged players turn it around. He's supposedly the Duncan of hitting coaches. I just heard that, please don't ask for proof.

JulieDiCaro said:

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that's peachy.

at one point, people said the same thing about Don Baylor.

Aisle424 said:

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He is credited with the creation of Mark DeRosa. I don't know if he helped him with the hitting, but Rudy suggested he have constant sexy stubble.

The biggest names that credit him with helping their development are Juan Gonzalez, Ivan Rodriguez, and Alex Rodriguez. What else besides a common hitting coach and Latino heritage do these guys have in common?

Umbra said:

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Natural talent that no hitting coach can create or refine?

JulieDiCaro said:

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ha.

that's funny.

millertime said:

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From Wiki:

"Prior to the 1995 season, Jaramillo was named as the Texas Rangers' major league hitting coach. From 1996 through the end of the 2004 season, the Texas Rangers ranked in the top five in the American League in team batting average, runs scored, slugging percentage, home runs, and hits. In 1999, the Texas Rangers led all of Major League Baseball in hits, slugging percentage, and team batting average(.293 for the season). In 2005, the Rangers hit 260 home runs: the second-highest total in Major League history. In 2008, the Rangers were first in both runs scored (901), hits (1619), and home runs (194). During his time with Texas, his hitters have won 16 Silver Slugger Awards, four MVP Awards, three home run titles, two RBI championships and a batting title.

Jaramillo has been credited for the development of players as Jeff Bagwell, Juan González, Iván Rodríguez, Mark Teixeira and Michael Young, among others"

Milton Bradley, Soriano, Josh Hamilton. I think even Andruw Jones had a slightly better year with him? The perception with Texas is that their offense is always good, but they never have any pitching. Of course, I think the Rangers also had a problem with a lot of their players using steroids, so who know what was going on.

JulieDiCaro said:

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i think that's the point Tim is making above. a lot of his "success" seems to come with players who were juicing. of course, everyone knows that steroid don't do a THING to make players better at baseball, so that can't be it.

gravedigger said:

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Do steroids give you more plate discipline? Do they help you see the ball better? Do they give you better hand-eye coordination? Do they help you concentrate better? Do they make you smarter at baseball.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Thanks for the making the "the civil was wasn't really about slavery" argument. Duh.

If you already HAVE the skills you listed off, does increased strength help you muscle some warning track balls into the bleachers? Does it help you hit the ball harder to get it through some closing gaps? Does it allow you to "fist" a ball hit off your hands over the head of the SS?

Yes. This is why ballplayers lift weights in the first place. Strength is an asset in baseball.

gravedigger said:

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Has this actually been scientifically proven?

JulieDiCaro said:

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that steroids build muscle and therefore strength? yes.

gravedigger said:

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Uh, no. That steroids have caused players to perform better. I'm not saying "does it sound logically like this would be true?" I'm saying, "has someone scientifically proven that steroid use has led to xxx"

Doc said:

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They also have a tiny little ballpark.

flyball said:

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I think he gets along ok with Milty

Doc said:

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Actually, when someone says Texas Rangers I think of "hitting" and "losing".

We've had teams that have hit lots of home runs in Chicago, and you know what? Those teams have sucked.

And you know what? The Cubs were 5th in the National league this year in home runs hit! Hitting the ball out of the ball park is not what this team needs...it needs better situational hitting, which is probably the big reason that Jaremaraudfiapdlo is leaving Texas...because of their change in philosophy.

Doc said:

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And in case I didn't make my self clear...Jarmarillo is going to be a really really really bad fit for this team.

Dmband said:

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WLS is the conservative right wing outlet...logically thier numbers are down because people do want to hear thier negative garbage in the morning on the way to work....

There is only so many Obama/Nazi comparisons you can stand before you just turn the dial.

millertime said:

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At least Hitler got Germany the Olympics.

Doc said:

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Using that logic, Bush would have gotten Chicago the Olympics. Some how, I don't think that works out.

Dmband said:

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that should read "people do NOT want to hear"...

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I'm sorry - What is WLS? Could it be you have sad-sack ratings because you practice sad-sack advertising? Honestly until I read this blog which lead me to read that article, I did not know a radio station existed at 890AM.

BTW: You alienating half the city won't help your ratings either dipsh*t

flyball said:

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eh, it was in the Sun Times Business section, nobody reads that anyway

jtbwriter said:

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Good morning from damp and cool So Cal-

Once upon a time WLS was interesting to listen to late at night when AM stations lowered their power and I could get it and WWL and KBOI and KOA or KOB in (New Orleans, Boise, Denver and Albequerque). Caught a sound bite the other day-Yuck! As bad as KFI here-must look under their beds for Commies every night!

I don't want BB to go manage-I like Len and Bob-he makes sense and seems to enjoy the broadcasting life! I know-some lucky team will offer him big bucks...but what does his family want?????? I don't see them pulling a Mark Teixeira-but will they want to pick up and move to Tex-as?

millertime said:

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If we bring in Jarmillo, Theriot will hit 25 HR next year. For reals.

Doc said:

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and he'll strike out 180 times and drive in 34 runs.

millertime said:

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Does anyone play Farmville on facebook? Is it fun? Can I get my farm to be subsidized by the government?

flyball said:

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don't play it, everyone I know who does is addicted, and thy try to get me to be their neighbors

the only one worse is yo ville

gravedigger said:

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That shit is so obnoxious. I have my Facebook set to hide all of those stupid fucking updates.

flyball said:

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I do love the little counter at the bottom that tells me how many are hidden

Dmband said:

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Regarding the hitting coach, and I am going to paraphrase D Lee here, but really, at the professional level, how much impact does a hitting coach provide, outside of a 1 person buffer zone to the manager. Oh, and he's also the arbitrary first guy fired when things arent going well. Its great, we need one, but lets not over-inflate his value. I really hope this isnt the Cubs way of selling us the concept of keeping Milty (b/c he "controlled him in the past")...I can see where this is going. If D Lee tells me the hitting coach is over little importance (again paraphrasing of course) I tend to believe him on that. I, personally, have no idea though.

FrankS said:

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Everyone seems to put a lot of faith in something politically correct that DLee said. Maybe for DLee a hitting coach doesn't matter, but he may very well make a difference with other players. Jeff Pentland sure made a difference in Sammy Sosa. No, he didn't give him the steroids, at least I don't think he did. But he did help Sammy develop some plate discipline.

Dmband said:

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The words Sammy Sosa and plate discipline have never been uttered in a coherent sentence before. I commend you in doing so.

I just get the sneaking suspicion that the Cubs realized that they put themselves in a terrible leverage position with the end of season suspension of MB. Now teams are going to basically make the Cubs bend over to "take him off our hands". This sigining is the way for them to sell us on keeping him....I may be getting ahead of myself on that...but alas..whats the offseason for anyways.

thisyearcub said:

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WHoa, this is crazy. Kid floating away in Colo.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/22887392#22887392

Doc said:

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I almost posted that too...

That family has a weird hobby.

berselius said:

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Apparently there is no one in the balloon - it just landed and they opened it up and no one was inside

Doc said:

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So the kid either fell out or it was a just a big false alarm. I hope it is the latter.

JulieDiCaro said:

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looks like he fell out--there's a photo. god, how sickening.

thisyearcub said:

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It is absolutely crazy how fast our society now is with technology/news-gathering. So apparently that kid is in this video, the family was featured on Wife Swap. He's the youngest one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBWJXXgaYBo

JulieDiCaro said:

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I'm afraid to look at that.

WTF kind of family builds experimental balloon aircraft together?

my BS alarm is going off.

berselius said:

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I think the bigger WTF is WTF kind of family would want to appear on Wife Swap?

JulieDiCaro said:

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Well . . yeah.

I've never seen that show, but I assume the swap doesn't go all the way. It should--THAT would be worth watching.

AndCounting said:

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I think the Venn diagram of the intersection of those two sets of people would constitute one of the innermost concentric circles of hell.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Oh wow. Balloon Boy's dad submitted a video to CNN saying he found proof of a civilization on Mars.

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-65548

Doc said:

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This whole this is just going off into really bad directions...

Before long, we are going to be told that they were actually trying to hide the truth...instead of being stuck in the balloon and he instead was taken captive on a UFO by aliens.

I really hope for the kid's sake that this actually is a hoax...because if it isn't, then the worst outcome is likely the truth.

millertime said:

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I heard the Balloon Boy's dad, his job is child-proofing houses or something.

MillsChC said:

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This balloon kid's such a hack, and the news outlets are morons.... all he did was rip off one of the side plots from "12 Monkeys", change it from a kid pretending to have fallen down a well -- to a kid pretending to be stuck in a floating hot-air balloon... and yet the news fell for it.... morons all-around.

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