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Cubs @ Team That's Better Than Us: Live Game Thread

We've got a game coming up in just under three hours, so we're going to combine our headlines and our game thread today.

MLB Chicago Cubs vs Washington Nationals in Washington

Sorry, dude

The game last night was a real heart-breaker, as our not-so-hitsy team managed to squander a great outing by Rich Harden's butt:
PHILADELPHIA -- Jayson Werth's two-out homer in the 13th inning Wednesday night, after Ryan Howard and Raul Ibanez had walked, gave the Phillies a 4-1 victory over the Cubs.

The loser was Jeff Samardzija, who got the first two outs in the inning before issuing the walks.

The Phillies have won 10 straight games, while the Cubs lost their second in a row after starting with four victories in Washington following the All-Star break.

"We've see this movie before about not scoring runs," manager Lou Piniella said.

"We're challenged offensively, I can tell you that. You don't score runs, you can't win. We've played this game so many times before that you get tired of complimenting the other team's pitchers. I'd like to compliment our hitters once in a while.

"We might need a couple of hitters at trading deadline."

Joy. I can only imagine what kind of hitters we're likely to get, what with the entire world knowing that we couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. A fifth (sixth? sevent?) go around at Paul Bako? Another Jeff Baker? Is it too late to get Freddy Bynum back? Blah.

I might be wrong, but it sure seems like Lou is throwing his latest pupil under the proverbial bus:

"The only thing I talked about last season was a need for a left- hand bat in a predominantly right-handed lineup who could hit the ball for power and drive in some runs," he said. "You look at our production last year and it was mainly from the right side.

"We didn't bring [ Jim] Edmonds back and Edmonds hit quite a few home runs, so we needed a left-handed bat. That's it. That was what I mentioned, that we could use a nice productive left-hand bat in the middle of our right-handed hitting."

Piniella paused for some time before finishing his thoughts and finally said:

"Look, we still need a left-hand bat who can hit for some power and drive in runs."

Pow! Take that, Milton Bradley!

Bradley will be in the lineup Wednesday after two days off to work personally with Piniella on "relaxation" techniques.

For the record, the now-retired Edmonds hit 19 homers and drove in 49 runs in 85 games for the Cubs last season. Bradley is far short of that in 74 games.

For the third straight day, Piniella talked about Bradley while stressing a different point. On Tuesday, it was about Bradley's label as a perfectionist.

"There's nothing wrong with being a perfectionist," he said. "Nothing wrong with it, but don't get disappointed if you're not perfect all the time. You have to be a 'realistic perfectionist.'

"Relaxation techniques." Give me a break. I've never seen anyone so in need of a good course in meditation, yoga, and a good sports pyschologist as Milton Bradley. Blah on him, too.

Or maybe Milty just needs five minutes alone in a room with Ted, who I'm sure could straighten him out, just like he straightened out his knee:

PHILADELPHIA -- Cubs starter Ted Lilly went jogging before Tuesday night's game and said he felt "pretty good."

In fact, his sometimes-bothersome left knee feels good enough to pitch again Saturday in Wrigley Field against Cincinnati.

"We want to bring Lilly back on his [regular] five days," manager Lou Piniella said.

The Phillies blasted him Monday night when he was going on nine days rest, including an extra two for the knee.

Lilly doesn't like to talk about his knee, but when asked if he was perhaps over the problems for the rest of the season, he replied, "I'd like to think that."

There was more good news on starting pitching: Ryan Dempster is tentatively scheduled to rejoin the ranks a week from Thursday.

FINALLY, someone says what we've all been thinking. And suprise! It's Lou!

''Look, I can see people struggling part of the time, part of the year,'' he said. But I just don't see how people struggle for an entire year that have had success in the past. I mean, sooner or later, the light turns on, and 'I got it!' You know?

''Now, if there's no history, yeah, I can see people struggling for extended, extended periods of time, and sooner or later you go back to the minor leagues, and you work your way back up.

''But for people that have had track records for five-, six-, seven-year, eight-year periods, unless you're done, I don't see how you can continue just to struggle for an entire, entire, entire season.''

He was talking specifically about struggling right fielder Milton Bradley, but he might as well have been talking about an entire lineup that continues to confound.

It was bound to happen sooner or later. The whispers that this season is too far gone have started:

He's trying. You have to give Lou Piniella that. But with each passing day it becomes more evident that a mere manager, no matter how accomplished, will not be able to repair what ails the Cubs.

Piniella is taking personal responsibility for turning Milton Bradley's wretched season around by benching him and working with him on his hitting mechanics, which is admirable. It might even help jump-start the free-agent acquisition who ranks seventh on the team in RBI. Try as he might, however, Piniella is not going to change the brooding outfielder's personality, which is the biggest reason why he has assumed the fetal position in the glare of the Wrigley Field spotlight.

Piniella is not going to make Alfonso Soriano a competent major-league outfielder at this stage of his career, either. Despite his background as a hitting instructor, it's just as unlikely that the Cubs manager will convince Soriano to be more selective at the plate and therefore a more consistent run producer.

He's not going to make Carlos Zambrano less prone to the emotional outbursts that have become all too familiar.

The grizzled manager can't solve the inexplicable riddle that prevents Rich Harden, who pitched seven innings of a 4-1, 13-inning loss to the Phillies on Tuesday night, from being effective during day games at Wrigley Field. All he can do is try to accommodate this latest bizarre quirk, which could negatively impact other starters.

The Lou Piniella Era in Chicago appears to be winding down at a point when it should be reaching its crescendo. As easy as it would seem to blame the manager for that sad reality, the stone-cold truth is that what's preventing the 2009 Cubs from being the sum of their considerable parts is more complicated than a lineup tweak or the manager spending a couple days with an unproductive player in the batting cage. What ails the Cubs now and could ail them into the future is out of his control.

I know that we always say around here that team chemistry is overrated, but if there was ever a team to make you think it's just the wrong group of guys, this is the one. On paper, they look fantastic. But together, they just seem listless, nonchalant, apathetic, and lifeless.

So here's to hoping we can find some life today and avoid a sweep by the WS champs. Z (6-4) takes on 84-year old Jamie Moyer (9-6), who would probably be the best hitter on our team right now. Let's just hope we can get this thing turned around and find some fire. With Z on the mound, there's always a chace for a blowup/fight/and subsequent suspension, so at least we have that.

Game time is 12:05 CT on WGN. Lineups to come.

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millertime said:

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OMG. On espn, the one correspondent just pointed out that the PHillies don't need to trade for Halladay, because last season, Manny, CC, and Texiera didn't lead their teams to world series titles, so mid-season trades don't mean shit. Skip Bayless maintains that winning ten games in a row is bad because now the Phillies won't trade for Halladay, and with no Halladay, will lose the division to the Braves because there are over 4 football seasons worth of games left.


How can you be a "sports" reporter and be able to say things like that without getting fired?

Doc said:

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See...newspaper reporters need to stay off TV. It makes them stupid. I call it the Jay Mariotti effect. (But Jay Mariotti was stupid before he went on TV.)

JulieDiCaro said:

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I'm sick of Soriano. I'm done with Milton Bradley. I hate Heilman. I hate Spellcheck. I hate Kevin Hart. I need a Kenny Lofton/Aramis Ramirez-esque trade to get me excited about this team again.

Doc said:

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Don't hold your breath.

summerguy said:

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Well I'm glad you finally have given up on Heilman... what is up with this pigpen? Can't they go one freaking game without walking someone? We have to be leading the league in walks by our bullpen.

And f***ing Spellcheck. What the hell. You get 2 outs and you are scared to throw to 3 batters in a row? Do us a favor and go back to football, that way we don't have to pay your ridiculous contract you piece of shit.

JulieDiCaro said:

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this is the first time i've really ever seen this level of anger in you. i'm enjoying it.

jtbwriter said:

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Good Morning from hot SoCal.....

Sorry Julie-I like Jeff Samardzija-he pitched well despite the walkoff-he shouldn't have had to pitch the 14th at all actually. Yes the Cubs need hitters...and I had no idea Jim Edmonds had retired-that's sad. There are several teams that could use him (Cubs included) right now.
I envy you watching the game-my boss's f##### Mac doesn't get MLB TV and I have a free month! Sigh. At least my mom gets to watch the game.

JulieDiCaro said:

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Just imagine what we could have had for what we're paying Soriano and Bradley alone. Bleh.

Doc said:

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and just think about all that money we are paying Kosuke and Dempster too. It's really quite frightening. This franchise has become the Yankees of the late 80's and early 90's.

JulieDiCaro said:

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apparently, this is what i have to look forward to:

"They're not involved in the chase for Roy Halladay, but the Cubs could still add players before next week's trade deadline, according to Gordon Wittenmyer of the Chicago Sun-Times. The Cubs apparently have enough payroll flexibility to add a "mid-level" player and Wittenmyer suggests the team could pursue relievers such as George Sherrill and Chad Qualls. GM Jim Hendry said the Cubs can make moves "if something comes up," but didn't discuss specific needs.

The Cubs, who nearly acquired Chris Coste earlier in the month, could also pursue catching help if Geovany Soto's injury lingers longer than expected." (mlbtraderumors.com)

Gag.


Doc said:

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The Cubs will not make a trade.

Unless it is a straight up trade with Mets exchanging each teams entire roster.

Actually, that would be cool...Uncle Milty playing in New York? I bet that would go well.

gravedigger said:

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FUCK YEAH George Sherrill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1123

i mean, who?

Doc said:

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I think he's a bat boy for the Orioles.

Either way, we might be able to dump off Bradley to the O's for him. They are stupid enough to make that trade, right? Actually, Bradley would probably do really well in Baltimore.

Shady said:

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Dude, George Sherrill had over 30 saves last year and was one of the best closers in the league... For the stinkin' ORIOLES!

He's already got 21 saves this year with an ERA of 2.35

I'd take him in a heartbeat.

Doc said:

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especially if they take Bradley in return.

gravedigger said:

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oh. i dont pay attention to the AL. my ignorance.

gravedigger said:

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can marshall give it up? i think he's got it in him.

come on grand slam!

gravedigger said:

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this team is teh suck.

i know theyre winning, but still.

flyball said:

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I'm done with high priced talent, I want young guys who make the minimum

Doc said:

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They can't perform much worse...can they?

flyball said:

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plus, I love minor league baseball, and the Chiefs game I saw last year at Wrigley was fun, and inexpensive, literally the whole family could go

blow it up, break it down, and start all over, keep Zambrano, and anyone making less than $2 mil a year, everyone else can go to New York or one of the Cali teams and be all fancy and tan

gravedigger said:

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wtf is with harden being lights out away from home but god awful at home? weird?

also, why the fuck does anyone think this team will go to/have success in the playoffs? seriously, can't we just be done with that?

JulieDiCaro said:

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at wrigley he probably gets nervous that everyone is looking at his butt.

which reminds me that we didn't name the "Butt of the Game" last night. I nominate Spellcheck, for sucking at not giving up walkoff HRs.

Doc said:

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Shouldn't that be "Horse's Ass of the Game"?

gravedigger said:

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im not gonna argue with that nomination

JulieDiCaro said:

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MLBTR also reporting that the cards might be pursuing adam dunn, so that should help things out a lot.

Doc said:

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um...

ok...

so let me get this straight...

We had to get rid of DeRosa so we could have the money to get a left handed power hitter.

The cardinals get DeRosa, and now realizing they are good, are going to continue to add by getting a left handed power hitter.

And we are stuck with Fontenot and Bradley.

Can this season get any worse?

Lets look at this by position right now.

First Base:
Lee-PooHoles
Advantage-Cardinals

Second Base:
Fontenot-Schumaker
Advantage-Cardinals

Shortstop:
Theriot-Ryan/head case boy(Greene)
Advantage-wash (maybe Cubs...but...)

Third base:
Ramirez-DeRosa
Advantage (This is close...but) Cubs

Left Field:
Soriano-Duncan/Stavinoha
Advantage sadly wash

Centerfield
K-Fuk/Reedz-Rasmus/Ankiel
Advantage Cardinals

Right Field
Bradley-Ludwig
Advantage Cardinals

Catcher
Soto-Molina
Advantage Cardinals

#1 Starter
Z-Carpenter
Advantage Cardinals

#2 Starter
Lilly-Wainwright
Advantage Cardinals

#3 Starter
Harden-Pineiro
Advantage Cardinals

#4 Starter
Dempster-Lohse
Advantage Cubs

#5 Starter
Wells/Wellemeyer
Advantage Cubs

Closer
Goggles/Franklin
Advantage Cardinals

If you add that up, that's 9 advantages for the Cards, 2 washes and 3 for the Cubs.

And the really disturbing part is that the three advantages the Cubs have right now aren't huge advantages. You look at what the cardinals are getting out of second base, center field, right field, catcher and closer compared to the cubs right now...it's stunning.

I am actually starting to doubt my belief that the Cubs will win this division.

Ok...every can now yell at me.

flyball said:

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I'm doubting, I'm doubting they will finish above 3rd in the division

I want to believe, I really do, and at the beginning of the season I remarked that the year the Cubs actually do win it all won't be a year they go the entire season in first that it'll be a year when they are the underdogs, but every day that they make 2 errors and can't score with a runner on second and 0 outs I just get more annoyed

summerguy said:

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Hell that doesn't even piss me off as much as the frequent occurrences of runners being stranded on 3rd with 1 OR LESS OUTS. All the god damn time. Absolutely pathetic... its too bad we fired our hitting coach for this... that worked out. We should have sacked Hendry instead.

flyball said:

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I'm saying, scrap it all and start all over

good on paper bores me, and this team might have the right pedigree, and occasionally a player will be exciting, but the team isn't

Doc said:

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There is no superstar on this team.

No one on this team is close to an MVP...

Ramirez might be the closest...Soriano should be perennially if he could bat somewhere else other than leadoff. Last year I thought Soto was the closest thing we had to an MVP.

You look at the Phillies...Rollins, Utley, Howard, and now this year, Ibanez...

Those are 4 players who have the potential to be an MVP (not so much Rollins this year, but he was MVP a few years back).

The Cardinals have Poo-holes.

The Brewers have Braun and Mr. Staypuft.

We have Ryan Theriot and Derrek Lee. Ouch....not that Lee has been bad, but compared to many of those other players, he doesn't quite match up. In fact, we've become so accustomed to seeing bad hitting, that Derrek Lee looks like Babe Ruth.

This team needs a superstar again.

We need an Ernie Banks...Ryan Sandburg...Andre Dawson...Sammy Sosa.

And as much as we like Ramirez...he is not that player even at his best. He is not a player the other team will immediately want to walk when he comes to the plate like Poo-holes or Howard or Manny or Fielder.

summerguy said:

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I really sucks because if we got even half of what we expected Soriano or Bradley to produce, this offense might not be as bad as we think.

Except, they are giving us absolutely NOTHING (minus Soriano's backtoback days of a HR) and that includes FonteNOT and Soto too. If we had 50% of the production we EXPECTED to get from these 4 players, well we might actually compete in the NL. But alas, this is the Cubs... just another Cubbie occurrence.

God hates us.

Rich Beckman said:

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There's always 2015!*


*the first year Soriano is not under contract for

JulieDiCaro said:

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god, that was a horrible deal.

Doc said:

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For hitters, I do still believe over the course of a season, everything evens out...

That means Soriano will get really hot soon. That mean Bradley will pound the cover off the ball...

With those two players turning thing around, this team will win the division.

Doc said:

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Z needs to look like a #1 starter today......but that isn't going to matter if this offense is going to give 110 year old Jamie Moyer and his 34 mph fastball his first career no hitter or something.

summerguy said:

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We make the good pitchers earn their paycheck and the crappy/rookie pitchers look like Cy Young

summerguy said:

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Aaaaand the Red Sox just signed Adam LaRoche... the RED SOX. The team with an already good offense.

FUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK. What the hell are we then? We have a SHITTY offense... and we justify that by

1)giving Milton Bradley summer school
2)batting Soriano leadoff while hitting .200
3) playing Fontenot at 3rd when we had Jake Fox on the roster
4) mindfucking Jake Fox by continuing to send him down and bringing him up without playing him for the first 3 months
5)carrying 5 DHs/1B men
6)Always carrying either too many infielders or too many outfielders and never having a good balance
7)coddling Zambrano and scorning Bradley for acting in the same manner
8) Carrying 13!!! pitchers while this offense was/IS in the shitter
9) DAVID FUCKING PATTON!!!!!!!!!!!!
10) Using Cotts as a lefty specialist for the first few months
11) Not having a true lefty reliever in our bullpen
12) Using Sean Marshall as our lefty in the bullpen
13) Giving Kevin Hart a freakin spot in this team- HE HAS 10 WALKS IN 10 INNINGS WHILE STARTING!!!

Good god I probably missed some but that is one heck of a list. Whoever the GM for this team is should be shot.

baturkey said:

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CF Johnson, SS Theriot, 1B Lee, 3B Ramirez, RF Bradley, LF Soriano, 2B Baker, C Hill and P Zambrano

millertime said:

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Right? Why didn't we sign A-rod, Draft Braun, Lincecum, Adam Jones, sign Raul Ibanez, trade for Johan, pick up Utley, and grab Brad Lidge? It's all so simple!

millertime said:

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Time for fill in the blank:

Instead of Soriano in left we should have ______________

Instead of MB in right we should have ___________________

Instead of Fontenot we should have _________________

Instead of Dempster we shoud have _____________________

In CF we should have _________________________

JulieDiCaro said:

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okay--i'll play, because i think your premise is faulty:

Time for fill in the blank:

Instead of giving Soriano 8 years we should have given him 4.

Instead of MB in right we should have gotten someone with less of a history of head issues--like Raul Ibanez.

Instead of Fontenot we should have MARK DEROSA!!!!

I am fine with Dempster.

In CF we should have someone who cost less than Fukudome.

The issue isn't that these moves were completey wrong (though I still think Bradley was), it's that we're stuck with all these guys for WAY too long and they all cost too much!

Perkins said:

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Okay, the Cubs would not have gotten Soriano for 4 years. He was the best free agent on the market after 2006, and the Cubs had to pay a premium to get him.

Bradley was a better choice than Ibanez. He's having a laughably bad season, but that's not something anyone rational could have predicted. He's a better hitter than Dunn, Ibanez, or Abreu. People have down years. Shit happens.

Trading DeRosa was also a very good move. He's a career utility player who had a couple of really nice years in Chicago. There's a reason he played a bunch of positions: he's not good enough to stick at one and prevent others from playing there. Hendry traded him at the peak of his value and got three decent to better than decent pitching prospects. Not a bad haul for a journeyman who just had a career year and one year left on his contract.

Agreed on Dempster. He's pretty good. Maybe he got a bit much given what pitchers other than Sabathia and Burnett got, but he was also the first good SP to sign, so no big deal.

The Fukudome thing is regrettable, and he obviously wasn't going to be as good as in Japan, since Japan is like the minor leagues, but there weren't many options available when the Cubs signed him.

It's just the way the market works. The best player might not be worth as much more than the next best, but a team that wants him has to pay that premium, whether it's in years or dollars or both. I can't be too pissed off about the way Hendry has done business (other than giving 3/21 to a pitcher who had just posted an FIP of 5.90 and was never impressive to begin with). He's a good GM.

Doc said:

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Wow...where do I start on that one? lol.

flyball said:

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I object to 8 year contracts on principle, and I object to paying that much to a player, because there is no way someone can live up to that, its unreasonable expectations

but then on this point I end up sounding like a cranky old man arguing against big contracts and claiming things are way out of control, and that is a bit of a problem

Perkins said:

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That's the thing. Nobody can live up to that kind of contract. Fans need to understand that the scale for performance and compensation isn't linear, but rather exponential (or at least more like an exponential curve than a line).

Teams have to overpay to get top talent, unless they can develop it in house. Hendry has been very good at trading prospects for good to great talent from other teams, and that's another approach.

Coming off of a season like 2006, I was glad the Cubs would actually shell out to get the best player on the market. It's what they should have done after 2004 when Carlos Beltran was a free agent.

JulieDiCaro said:

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i was glad, too. that was the first time we really went out and got the big name on the market. but shelling out these huge contracts and then picking up the jeff bakers and sticking mediocre talent at 2B isn't going to do it.

we all knew we'd hate soriano's contract down the road. i just didn't think we'd get to the road so soon.

Perkins said:

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Well, Fontenot wasn't supposed to suck this much ass. He maybe wouldn't have, had he had a platoon partner from the start, but hindsight is 20/20.

flyball said:

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I get that nobody can live up to that, but seriously you think that the return on investment for Soriano is good? I don't buy that, I don't believe the $100+ mil payroll is making the Trib, or Zell, or whoever buys it next, more than a $90 mil one would

its like play money, the dollars are so big it doesn't even make sense

Perkins said:

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That said, there's no reason a big market team like the Cubs shouldn't outspend their competition and dominate their division. Obviously you're going to see diminishing returns for payroll, but increased playoff appearances (and consequent merchandising opportunities, among other things) can help alleviate that.

flyball said:

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just because they can doesn't mean they should, its a spiral and in the end its not fair (yes I said its not fair) to other markets what maybe can't keep up, but also its just ridiculous, and I really don't want to watch the Cubs turn into the Yankees or Red Sox (less successful version at that) because I've been to Yankee Stadium, and I go to Fenway couple times a year, and for the average fan Wrigley is still a way more affordable option

JulieDiCaro said:

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i'm just sick of getting players that suck, and giving them huge contracts that no one in their right mind would take off our hands.

other teams (except the yankees) don't do things this way. we have to develop some better prospects, trade some of our stars when they still have value, find some bargains out there, and I don't mean the jeff bakers of the world.

if they want to spend money somewhere, they should spend it on getting the twinks front office over here.

Perkins said:

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I refer you to Lugo, Julio; Hampton, Mike; Ortiz, Russ; and sundry others. Plenty of teams hand out bad contracts. Soriano isn't a bad player, but he is streaky (perhaps more than most). People have very short and selective memories of players; The Cubs don't make the playoffs in 2007 without Soriano, and they're not nearly as good in 2008. He's a good player, and there's no reason to think he won't bounce back.

And the Bradley signing was also good (and cheap). He has underperformed, but there's also no reason to think that will continue.

millertime said:

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Good job Theriot. Nice bunt.

millertime said:

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Time for some redemption Bradley.

flyball said:

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or you know, not

millertime said:

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blah blah blah come out on top blah blah blah early season blah blah small sample size blah blah my cat is attacking the chair.

baturkey said:

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Pay no attention, second base umpire, to the ball bouncing into center field, for I am applying the tag.

millertime said:

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UGH.

millertime said:

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So, when you stack your fantasy baseball team with Cubs players, it really sucks when the Cubs don't play well. I need this win today. and 26 strike outs.

flyball said:

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yay for double play

how many innings has Hill caught in the last week? seems like a lot

Shady said:

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Following the game on cbs.com ...

They're showing Moyer's fastball at a blazing 81mph. Now I know Moyer is up there in age, but an 81mph fastball? No way. Anyone watching on a TV can verify this guy is really lobbing 'em in there that slow?

baturkey said:

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He really is.

Doc said:

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That's about right for moyer.

Unbelievable, isn't it?

millertime said:

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Infuriating is the word I use. Why haven't we put up 35 runs yet?

flyball said:

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its some Jedi mind trick thing, he has convinced people its a fastball

Shady said:

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OK an 81mph heater, and I use the term heater loosely, so what does that make his change up a solid 69mph? Or does he use one of those ramps you see at bowling allys where you push the ball down the ramp and it eventually gets to the pins? You know what I'm talking about.

flyball said:

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yes, but it has lots of movement

Doc said:

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if by movement you mean arc...yes it does. like a rainbow.

flyball said:

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I'm waiting for him to break out a floater ala Rookie of the Year

I think Moyer could make it work

Shady said:

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So Bako finally came through for the Cubs with that clutch 2-on 2-out pop-out.

If this Cubs lineup can't put up runs on a geriatric Jamie Moyer in a hitter friendly park, well... I guess it would serve as reinforcement to everything else we've learned about this club this year.

Doc said:

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So, base on what I've seen this season...

The cubs can't hit slow pitchers.
The cubs can't hit curve ball pitchers.
The cubs can't hit power pitchers.

So, I guess that leave the Milwaukee Brewer pitchers as the only pitchers the cubs can hit. (I don't count Washington because those were exhibition games.)

Doc said:

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Moyer throws 6 straight balls...

so what do riot do on the next pitch? He swings and grounds out.

Oh...and a nice CS for Reedz.

summerguy said:

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Typical Cubs hitting.

Doc said:

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after 2007 we needed more speed and left handed power.

after 2008 we needed more speed and left handed power.

after 1/2 of the 2009 season we need more speed and left handed power.

I sense a pattern here. Anyone else see that?

summerguy said:

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that Jim Hendry is an incompetent GM that pulled off a couple good trades... good deal of shitty ones, and not many good free agent signings... yes I see that.

Shady said:

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Go Pirates go. 3 hrs in the 3rd off of Soup? Nice.

Doc said:

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hey...we have a couple of baserunners.

how do we screw this up?

Doc said:

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hey...we have 3 baserunners....

how do we screw this up?

Doc said:

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ok, soriano...you get $18 million a year.

Score one of these runners, dammit.

Doc said:

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PRAISE THE LORD!!! WE SCORED A RUN!

flyball said:

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dude, that worked!

Shady said:

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Wow, I'm a bit surprised Soriano 'caught up the 81mph GAS!

Doc said:

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LOL

amazing...isn't it?

baturkey said:

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Well that escalated quickly.

flyball said:

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I'm confused, it just sounded like the Cubs played good baseball!

Doc said:

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Don't let it fool you...

This is about the point where Z starts becoming a sucky pitcher.

flyball said:

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but for a few minutes we can bask in wonders that is cheering for the team in the lead

Doc said:

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it feels strange.

and yet so good.

it reminds me of my youth, way back in 2008 when the team was good.

summerguy said:

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Yay... I'm glad we scored 4 runs... but we once again stranded a runner on 3rd, with NO OUTS.

Doc said:

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Moyer just had a little lapse there...

He forgot where he was for about 5 minutes there, he thought he was retired and in Florida playing shuffleboard. That happens at his age. Then the catcher gave him his pills and he started pitching like normal again.

Shady said:

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Milty getting in on the action, thanks Lou!

Doc said:

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now if he could just start doing that from the left side of the plate.

Shady said:

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Don't get greedy now, take what you can get from 'ol Melt-down Bradley.

Doc said:

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Bradley drives in a run!

That's what we are paying him for! Thata boy!

Doc said:

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Moyer's out.

I guess that is all the scoring for us today.

Doc said:

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um...Z? I was kidding about starting to suck. Stops being sucky and finish this game out.

Doc said:

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hello?

is anybody out there?

Doc said:

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So, I see how this works...

The cubs play well, then no one has anything to say because there is nothing to complain about. I get it.

Shady said:

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Wow. Scott Eyre. That name brings me back. But not as far back as Matt Stairs. And not as far back as Jamie Moyer aka Grandpa Mo.

flyball said:

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I like Scott Eyre, always did

Shady said:

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Do you realize we once had a bullpen with names like :

Wuertz (Worst)

Eyre (Error)

and

Ohman (do I really need to explain this one?)

Looks like the Pit Mil game is a good one to follow. Tied 7-7 in the 9th.

baturkey said:

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Here are the Chicago Cubs we know and . . . know.

JulieDiCaro said:

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what happened? did z just fall apart?

summerguy said:

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Basically... he is given a lead... and he pitches like a 3rd or 4th starter. He is no ace.

flyball said:

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I begining to think that the Cubs rotation is really just a bunch of #2 and #4 starters

JulieDiCaro said:

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what is up wtih bradley and the broken bats this season?

JulieDiCaro said:

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Maybe Lidge will fall apart like he did that one season.

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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Seems like a headcase... hits Blanco then walks Hill on 4 straight... but now it seems like he's coming around against Johnson.

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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Cubs are working on some State Farm Insurance Runs here in the 9th...

Doc said:

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We could score a run on this guy last night.

It must be the Bradley factor.

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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Hooray! Two insurance runs!

JulieDiCaro said:

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WHEEEEEEEE! WALKS FOR EVERYONE!

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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Cubs have drawn 9 walks today. Reminds me of last year *sniff*

HoboHanson said:

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The Cubs have finally turned things around. The new hitting coach is working. heh heh. fucking two face cubs.

JulieDiCaro said:

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don't look back, carl. don't look back.

summerguy said:

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It is nice to see REEDZ get a base hit in the lead off spot finally. AND against a righty.

HoboHanson said:

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nice. This is what I though all three of these games would be like. High scoring action!

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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I was hoping Ramirez would get on so we'd get to see Gregg bat.

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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I was hoping Ramirez would get on so we'd get to see Gregg bat.

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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Now we see whether the Phillies can come up with a 5 or 6-run home run. I wouldn't put it past them.

JulieDiCaro said:

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phillies fans are very excited to have a hawaiian on their team . . .

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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Hooray! Now we're the best team in the National League!

Doc said:

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We are the best team in the NL when our ace pitcher goes up against a 91 year old man. WOOHOO.

Doc said:

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cubs win.

JulieDiCaro said:

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5-2 road trip---i'll take it. thank god for the nats.

Shady said:

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Go. Cubs. Win.

Carl Heartscubs Gierhan said:

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Shady, you mentioned earlier about Moyer's fastball... I think it was Pat earlier in the week who mentioned that Moyer didn't break 80 in his last start at Florida.

Perkins said:

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The only contract Hendry has given out that still befuddles me is Marquis. Mainly because he sucked ass in 2006 and was never good. I get that he was cheap, but I feel like he could have been had for a few million less.

gravedigger said:

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of course, at the time, i said WTF.

and now, given his current situation, i feel like slaying someone.

gravedigger said:

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god dammit, see this is what i hate. the team wins and scores 10 runs and now everyone is going to be all optimistic again.

STOP IT. this team sucks.

flyball said:

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who's being optimistic? not me

Perkins said:

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Marquis has been really lucky this year. But that was about as likely as the way this offense has performed (i.e. not very likely at all).

JulieDiCaro said:

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Don't look now, but we're 1.5 games back.

jtbwriter said:

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1.5 games back is good! I think the Cubs can still do it-nobody else in the division is exactly running away with it!

Rich Beckman said:

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Today meant nothing. The Cubs beat a starting pitcher whose ERA is 5.58. The Cubs started their "ace" and he gave up 4 earned runs. Good thing Moyer was pitching for the Philies.

Win the division? It could easily happen. The entire division is at least as mediocre as the Cubs are.

Win the division, get swept in the playoffs.


The Cubs will break the routine in twenty fifteen!

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