Maybe a bit impulsive at times, and certainly passionate about my football team, but certainly not unintelligent. Especially not because of my very rational and reasonable thoughts about a TE's abilities and his potential for our specific team make up.
Thanks Jeff!
]]>The only problem with moving him to the slot is that now the receiving corps has Hester, Knox, and now Olsen as slot receivers. Who is the odd man out?
]]>Before, completely disregarding the possibility of trading Greg Olsen, shouldn't we first find out what we can get out of him? What if the Cards would take a package deal of him and a 3rd for Bolden, or the Rams would take him and a 3rd for Alex Barron.
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that made me laugh out loud. I want Olsen to continue to develop. He may never be Shockey or have as bad of hair as Shockey but the kid will get better and better. My only concern is that i like Cutlers chances of not throwing picks when he is NOT out there. It just seemed like he would lock onto him a bit. Olsen had some big catches last year and i thought he showed a lot of potential so it will be interesting to see how this little soap opera plays out. We don't need a 4th rounder and some cash for him. we have the cash and Jerry will just fuck up the 4th round pick. We need Martz to find a role for Olsen so he can get better and so Cutty can have a big target.
On a sad note, i just read that Bennett is having knee surgery that will keep him out of part of off season workouts. that doesn't bode well for this kid who is going to have to learn the shit out of Martz's encyclopedia of pass routes and check downs.
]]>Gotta keep Dez though regardless of what we do. that cat can still play and does the little things. only when you try to run him and Olsen into each other on a pick play from the 4 yard line does he not perform. What a stupid play call by Turner. it still makes me mad.
]]>Are you sure you're OK Jeff?
]]>http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/news/story?id=4956727
if the front office mgt. clusterfucks this offseason, the owners should be outbought also....time to get some new faces at every position
]]>"Anywhere is an option," Sharper said Monday on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "Coach Lovie Smith, I have the utmost respect for him. I've played against him for many years and seen how he's built that program in Chicago. I'm a firm believer in what he's doing up there. I love the Chicago fans. Wherever I go I want to go to a great fan base, and Chicago has one of the best fan bases in all of the NFL."
sure it's just chatter, but indirectly he's interested in playing for Da Bears. let's oblige him and give him a reason to light up (Brett Favre?), AP, and fagbeard AKA Childress
]]>Mr. Olsen I ask you do understand the "Dogs of War"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMrNRyq7Y44&feature=related
Interior Lineman, Safeties, a DE. There is your list, you fill that and see a 6'3" WR sitting around hire him too but I don't know why we are looking at TEs and RBs.
]]>Halas Hall is pulling you by your short and curlies and making you not focus on our needs rather than what they want you to beleive is important!
]]>Well, I typically agree with you Jeff, but I gotta be honest, in this case, I couldnt disagree more. Here's what I mean, if Greg Olsen, or any Tight End for that matter, is the key to your offense...you've got a pretty bad offense. This is what happens when you DONT HAVE top tier receivers...Im not saying that position cant be very productive and important, but lets not get crazy here...
]]>Get rid of him.
Has it ever been stated that I want a draft pick and pigskin for him? No.
However, I have in the past, and will continue to for as long as his pass-dropping self remains on this squad with any possible value attached to his name, state that he should be bundled up with a few other over-hyped, over-valued, and under-performing "stars" on the team to get us eiter of the following:
1) A proven performer
2) A #1 draft choice
I'd give him, Urlacher, and Hester a "good luck in all your future endeavors" salutation if it meant getting a player to fill a HOLE. The way I see it, TE is not a weak point for us with Dez and KD still in uniform.... Not to mention the idea of Manuamalelamauana joining up.
Could Olsen and a group of over-valued guys be the key to getting Mr. Suh in town? Not likely... Would I send Greggy packing if it did? Damn right.
Would I send Olsen packing for a draft-pick for Jerry to blow on another under-performer? Nope.
Package him up and get us someone who has either proven themselves (Or has a last name that rhymes with "Do") from a team who thinks he's worth a turd...
See ya later Greggy. You can always get s#!t-faced with Jay during the off-season. Not in the Red Zone.
And try diving for passes for your new team.
XOXO
Willie
]]>DAMN YOU SATAN BEGONE!
]]>Replace Urlacher with Briggs and you have my choices.
]]>I’ve thought about this for a while this morning, and while that post was fucking weak in my mind, I’m not going to be a sensitive little bitch about it. I’ve been the most vocal proponent (besides Irish) of trading Olsen THIS offseason while he still has perceived value – for what I feel are very valid and logical reasons and there’s no way I’m going to change my opinion… mostly because I think I’m 100% right.
To sum up my long-winded ‘trade greg now’ argument from about 3 other past posts:
• Guy can’t/won’t block, not even downfield – this effectively makes him a big, slow WR… and if that’s the case let’s just get a good, fast WR like Boldin to replace him (the argument that he creates create mismatches is silly, a Boldin also tends to create mismatches and not just with DE’s in coverage)
• 2 YAC avg (not sure if this is because of his ass or not Fresno, but it’s an actual stat and not my opinion)
• He drops balls because he won’t dive/jump/sell out for a ball
• Cutler will throw to him no matter what… at the detriment of other OPEN receivers (100% Johnny), or just throwing the ball away when he needs to
• He’s one of the only players on this team that still has perceived value - at a position that’s now 4, and maybe soon FIVE deep. We don’t need 4 fucking TEs – trade one for something we do damn well need!
I just don’t see how anything to do with any of our TEs is even remotely more important than getting a couple guards, a disruptive DE, and a FS or two in our house. Trading Olsen is one of the most available avenues for filling at least one of those emergency gaps in the next couple weeks. Anyway, those are my thoughts. You can either agree with them or not, but if we don’t trade him this offseason it will be a big mistake in my eyes.
]]>Offense: Olsen, Hester, Basanez.
Defense: Hillenmeyer, Vasher, Anderson.
]]>I've been screaming about getting rid of that schmoe for months now...
Completely agree with everything here. Then again, how many "unintelligent" people need to agree with each other to make it intelligent?
I guess 51% of the population - ::cough:: Bush supporters ::cough::
Yeah, I said it.
]]>He is "sub-par" at his number 1 job by your own admission and you call me unintelligent? I can take a joke, but the irony is so thick its congealing right now.
Dez can block, Davis is ok, why would we be looking at another tight end when we could already conceivably get rid of one? Ah yes, Martz must get his own Tommie Harris-style bum to coddle as part of his contract, his own subset of the Lovie BFF Club.
]]>Would you base player evaluations on John Shoop's offense? Turner's was only slightly better. The trio of Turner, Houdini and Pep "Fucking" Hamilton scares no one! Let's see what a real OC and OL coach can do with Olsen. Until they got Aroma in the mix, Olsen was the only receiver Cutler trusted. He forced a million throws his way. Most defenses knew this and rolled the coverage to Olsen's side. The guy has some unique skills. Let's see what Martz and Tice come up with for him.
I'm a little surprised by the unintelligent comment from Jeff. I don't agree with most of you about Olsen but I'd never say that. Just agree to disagree. Now Mad Max on the other hand ...
Go Bears!
]]>I’ve never said the guy won't get better with time, or that he's complete sheite (unless we’re talking about his blocking), or that another team wouldn't be able to take better advantage of his skill set due to their distinct needs... I’m simply saying that the value isn’t there for us in our current situation. And that he’s in the unique (and unenviable) position to be traded to allow us to fill some of our more pressing needs/gaps. I’m sure he’s a great guy and a blast to be out chasing women with on a drunken Friday night, but that doesn’t help us much on Sundays.
]]>Yes please.
]]>PLEASE PAPA!!!!!! breathe some life into your daughter and help us!
]]>I don't think it is thumping on Olsen as much as Business...we have no 1R or 2R.. so I think the idea is to try to get in those rounds and who do we have to offer with some value. I am sure that the other scouts have looked at the film on Olsen..this may all be for not..on the other hand if they are like are scouts... shit we maybe able to through the baby out with the bath water and get something back and then some.
]]>WHEN NEED TWO BEAST GAURDS, DE AND A SAFTEY we are porous on both lines...
]]>Also, I'm not sure I'd want to go chasing women with him. You'd end up in bars listening to Country music. I'd rather pound my pud.
Go Bears!
]]>I like Olsen more than I trust JA's ability to draft talent.
Go Bears!
]]>Since that report came out of signing Manumaleuna, I really don't remember anyone saying that though. Again, I don't read EVERY post but I read quite a few. I know my stance was trade him for a #1 WR like Boldin since they will require the same compensation if traded. A 2nd or 3rd round pick. Hell, I don't know if it's even that easy to be honest. Who the shit knows what's involved in a guys contract anymore. I personally don't know what the in's and out's of a NFL contract even are. I'm even having trouble figuring out this whole CBA Agreement that's so god damn frustrating.
No doubt Greg Olsen is talented right? Everybody can agree on that. I would only put a few guys ahead of him. One guy is even in our own division, Jermichael Finley...that guy is the complete package. Everybody is saying Greg Olsen can't block...really? Have you seen overwhelming proof that he can't? Does anybody have any tape of those allegations? Now everybody misses their assignments from time to time but to say the guy is a terrible blocker that might be going a little far. The whole O-line dropped the ball last year, not just Greg Olsen.
My beef with the guy is that he has a paper thin vertical and has bad timing (who are we kidding, the guys white) JK. I'm white. But why are we using him in the red zone as a fade option anyways as Jeff pointed out? WTF!! That shit pisses me off more than the FB draw, at least that play makes sense. Yes even 3 times in a row {O.k not really). Or the little 5 yard pass to the edge were he gets popped for a loss or a 3 yard gain every time.
The bottom line is all that Jeff is saying is wait and see how a REAL OC will use a gifted TE such as Olsen. There is a such thing as a 2 TE Set people.
Again, trading Olsen for Boldin or equivalent makes sense in my opinion, for anything less would be asinine. Might as well keep him around and see what Martz can do with him if that's the case.
]]>FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
]]>“you realize that the odds of winning are the same as being mauled by a polar bear AND a regular bear in the same day…”
]]>Gone for the weekend and all hell breaks loose.
Mad Max has his monthly and bleeds all over da blog.
Blogfather gets all righteous on our asses.
WTF?
Seriously, if anyone's suggesting trade Olsen for late round picks, I've never read it. And that would make it one or two in hundreds of posts. Seems weird for Jeff to pull a move like that. Perhaps we are just a play, orchestrated for his amusement. Perhaps he's just planting the seed of contempt in order to orchestrate some mild rebellion. Perhaps he also blogs under the pseudonym of the wonderful Mad Max for no other reason than to make his play more interesting. Enter Villain stage right please, enter villain stage right.
You should consider slumming with us on the actual board a little more often Jeffy. I've oft' wondered why you don't. Is it to maintain the allure? Might you entertain the notion just long enough to explain your comments?
As for Olsen, I've been on the fence for this guy all season. Prior to that I thought this would be his pro bowl year. I've certainly let many of this board's argument sway my opinion toward the negative. But maybe he's just one year removed from that pro bowl year. One year later than I thought it would come anyway. Perhaps Mike Martz could use a new crinkle to his offense. People would have a new factor to game plan against. Surely he must see this potential.
In the end, I can't let Mike Martz system be the deciding factor. We all agree that it's just a lame duck staff. In the end, it hurts the FRANCHISE to rid of a potential star (yeah, I said it) for just a one year roll of the dice.
On the other hand, I'd take him for Boldin and some modest package in a heartbeat.
As for the Pisa news, I'm confused, wasn't he signed thru 2010? I thought we had just established that recently. Guess that's what happens when we get our news from blogs. Course, that's what you'd expect from us unintelligent folks.
]]>Are the Ghost Halas and Jeff the same person ? Have the same tone .... agree about the same things that were never said. Curiouser and curiouser .....
]]>There has been speculation that Greg Olsen might be deemed expendable because tight ends are primarily blockers in coordinator Mike Martz's offense. Angelo all but ruled that out as well.
''It's a possibility,'' he said when asked if he would consider trading a player for a pick. ''Do I see it happening? Probably not. If it did happen, it would happen on offense because that's where we're going to have the most change.
''A name was brought up to me [Thursday] night about a potential player who might not be a real good fit,'' Angelo said, presumably referring to Olsen. ''I know his name has been bantered around. Players look at themselves and how they fit. That's just normal. They want to know. But we're in the business to keep our good players. We're in the business to make sure our schemes facilitate our better players. To me, that's what good coaching is about. Us trading someone away at this point, I don't see that happening.
Offense : McKie (7th rounder?), Olsen, Hester.
Defense: Hillenmeyer, Payne/Steltz, Pisa for a pick.
Earth to Lovie: Is there anybody on our squad that fits this mold? If not, go out and find one.
]]>I keep imagining that Frank is JA and the kid are the Bear Fans and that is the answer we give everytime JA works a deal out and it goes south..(Rex,Benson trade Jones shall I go on..lol ...try it everytime and I just laugh until I pass out...
also rewind it and play it over and over it just keeps getting better all the time.. yeah for those on the blog I'm still seven years old in my mind..what are you going to do about it? lol
]]>1. Blogfather has a laid a major mind F!#@@#$K to all. lol
2. We find out the Jeff is actually Larry Mayer and Ghost yes. one in the same...and he really is Colonel Mustard and killed the real blogfather in the billards room.
3. Olsen is the love child from Lovie and JA in a strange college fraternity party and they wanted to experiment..you know it's college...
4. McCaskey is actually: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irtsm7mLG5k
do you not see the resemblance?
5. JA & LDL shell game has everyone going until... dun dun dah!!!
Stay Tuned for Next weeks climatic Blog for the answers. Unitl then remeber to drink you Ovaltine!! LOL!!!!
]]>Go Bears!
]]>It's easy as hell to criticize Olsen for not blocking, but really, we just never had any WR depth to speak of at all, and if that isn't addressed, it won't matter who the TE's are. At all.
And here's another thing that worries me some. If Hester is given back his K/P R role, will he have anything left to give it, or has he turned that wierd corner so many guys do when they are treated like various salad ingredients?
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