Bears defensive tackle Tommie Harris says he and his teammates need to get to the playoffs not just for themselves, but for coach Lovie Smith -- who, according to Harris, has been so good to the players that they must repay him by playing well.
"We owe it to him," Harris said Monday. "That guy has been great to us from training camps to what he's done with the facilities. Different things that you see other coaches really don't care about, but this guy has come in and helped us out tremendously, and we owe it back to him."
It's a little surprising that Harris, of all players, would be the one who would step forward and speak up on Smith's behalf. It was just three weeks ago that Harris was an unhappy camper, publicly criticizing the team for keeping him inactive for the game against the Cincinnati Bengals.
It's also interesting that Harris thinks a coach having "been great to us" is a reason that coach should keep his job. Ultimately, a coach isn't judged by whether his players like him; he's judged by whether his players win. A critic of Smith's could just as easily point to that "great to us" comment and say it's evidence that the Bears need someone who's less a players' coach and more of a taskmaster.
Whatever the case, maybe it was Harris and other Bears players whom Charley Casserly of CBS was referring to when he said the Bears are 100 percent committed to Smith. But just because the players like Smith, that doesn't mean his job is safe, and Harris seemed to realize that the Bears, at 4-5, need to turn the season around.
"Now, the back is on our walls," Harris said. "I mean the wall is on our backs. So we really have to do something now."
No matter where the Bears' backs are relative to their walls, it's time for them to start winning soon, or else Smith will be out of a job, no matter how great to his players he is.
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Tommie Defends Lovie
The following is a piece from ProFootballTalk in its entirety. I don't have a ton to add Michael David Smith's commentary so I figured I'd just throw it out here for discussion.
78 Comments
Shady said:
There is a fine line between supporting a player and enabling one.
Shady said:
"No matter where the Bears' backs are relative to their walls, it's time for them to start winning soon, or else Smith will be out of a job, no matter how great to his players he is."
Good stuff.
Al In WI said:
Agree with Shady, to me this is more of an indictment than an endorsement.
Al In WI said:
Another thought on Harris. By playing well in SF he proved that his issue isn't that he's hurt, or past his prime, but rather that he isn't motivated to come out and his give his all. He was shamed by his play against the Cards so he came out and played hard and well in SF. If he could manage that effort all year he could still be an impact player. And the fact that his effort is a problem reflects back on the coaching staff.
IrishSweetness said:
Exactly Al, he plays well when he feels sufficiently motivated to do so. I thought he might have been a cripple. Not so it seems. That swim move to stuff Gore was awesome.
Bearly Sane said:
He hardly played well. Watch the game again and focus on Tommie. He is never doubled anymore and he gets pushed all over the field. The sack play was a perfect example...He was pushed back three yards off the ball...got just passed the original los when the QB was flushed and made the tackle. He's done and Lovie should be done. Accountability is a bad word in that locker room and it has been since Lovie arrived.
MB30SD said:
"That guy has been great to us from training camps to what he's done with the facilities."
Fucking pussy! Facilities, fucking facilities? Are you fucking kidding? You care more about the fucking facilities than about winning and about team pride?! You, and any other Bear player, that thinks like that is pathetic. Disgusting. I am angry. We the loyal fans deserve much more than that you douche.
SC Dave said:
What? Don't you like the new carpet in the weight room?
JerseyBearsFan said:
Dammit! where are those little moist towlettes that Nigel leaves in my locker!!??
Decatur Staleys #7 said:
Who's Tommie I haven't heard from that guy since 2006
sjvl said:
It occurs to me that the shitty attitudes of the press and the fans can't be helpful to this situation. There are 7 games left in the season, and I wonder how many of you people who call yourselves 'fans' will eat your words if indeed the Bears can turn this around.
I don't know if they will, or even if they can, but if they do they deserve a ton of credit after all the crap that has been written about them. There's a lot of season left. If you hate the Bears so much, go be a Colts fan or something. Jeez.
Shady said:
If you love the Bears so much why don't you marry them!
sjvl said:
I would, Pee Wee, but Peanut's already taken!! :)
IrishSweetness said:
Everybody on here is a fan. Who hates the Bears on here. Everybody on here wants to turn it around this season. We can probably afford to lose another game. We know it's not over until it's over. Philly ain't all that, neither are Baltimore. We need to sweep the Quuens. Period. Fans that go "Ra Ra Ra Bears" whatever the situation are idiots. They're not fans, they're mascots. I can't stand the fans that say they want to see us lose every game so that Lovie goes. That's insane. I don't understand wanting your team to lose. Especially if Lovie is monied up for the next couple of years. Turner is gone for sure. If our offense shows up on the same day as the defense we can kick the shit out of anybody except the Colts. Meh. I hate turtle head.
sjvl said:
I'm not Ra Ra, nor am I an idiot. I really wonder how much of a factor all the negativity really is to the team. How much press and blogs do they read? Do they watch ESPN? If so, everyone seems to count them out, to the point of making fun of them. Can't make it easier to get out there and give it all you got is all I am saying. I see all the games, I know what's happening this year - it's not pretty.
I agree with you and wait (not so patiently) for the day the offense and defense show up on the same day. I hope that day comes Sunday, and then is repeated for the next 7 weeks.
Shady said:
I'm more of a Bears enthusiast, really.
Albert in Tucson said:
"That guy has been great to us ..."
How about this for a meanwhile-here-in-the-real-world translation:
"That guy has been great coddling us ."
FRESNO,CA BEAR FAN said:
Tommie Harris are you still on Lovie's titty?
Cutlerjuice said:
It is plain to see that Lovie Smith is a wonderful person and a father figure to his players, and all of this is very well and good. Unfortunately here is the rub, very rarely do nice guys win in football. You can only win if you are tougher than your opponents , both individually and as a team.
That said this is not the time to be trashing the team, the coaches and the players. The fans are reliant on them to come good and the players need the support of the fans from now until the end of the season. Only then will we see whether Lovie Smith, his coaches and his players have the ability to have a winning season and get into the play-offs.
Good luck to them is what I say as a true Bears fan.
Shady said:
I don't get it, in your first sentence you call the Bears out for being too soft and then you say this isn't time to criticize the team? So which one is it?
MB30SD said:
I just think his username is... gross Shady. Cutlerjuice... eeeewwwww
MikeBrownhadaPosse said:
Yech.
SpawnOfDitka said:
These are things that a Cub fan would say. The Bears are not 'lovable losers'...they are the 9 time World Champions and Keystone franchise of the National Football League! The Bears will always have the support of the fans. They always have in the good times and the bad times. But when they are not playing up to their potential, and not playing hard they will get called out in this town. And that is as it should be. I, too, say good luck to the Bears...but good luck is a product of hard work and effort which is something that seems to be lacking in this group.
shonbear said:
Wonder if Jay will come out and say how great Ron Turner is and that they need to win for him?
Anyways, it's obivious that if Lovie was winning none of this would matter, I could care less how lame and arrogant he is, how repeatedly we hear the same ol same ol with excuses for failure every week, every year now.
To me Tommie coming out saying that "so we really have to do something now" means he wasn't "really" trying to do something before, not only him but possibly others on the team as well as this has been the personality of the team for several years now. I am long ready to see a shift in that mentality, but again, if we win I don't care, just don't allow an occasional lucky win to make you act like you don't need to work on stuff harder.
SC Dave said:
On your first sentence, I sure as hell hope not!
lobotobear said:
First....We can piss right we can piss left all we want but bottom line BOYS AND GIRLS this is a business!!! You can Mantra and speak to all the spirits you want but these players get paid to do A JOB!!!! They are all trained and understand when they sign the contract.. YOU HAVE A JOB TO DO!!!! I donot do my job and my boss goes YOUR FIRED. These are simple equations.. we are all in the real world.
Secondly...As fans we look at these players and wish we had that opportunity to be in their shoes for even one second, we live through their actions on the field and when we see what one does by pissing away and acting like a child it inflames us to think that they would actually piss that gift away. You know each and everyone of us would scacrifice just for one second to put that jersey on, feel the wind off Lake Michigan, the smell of the grass on a Sunday afternoon. AND THATS WHY FANS GET PISSED WHEN THEY SEE THEIR GLADIATORS PISS THAT GIFT AWAY!
MB30SD said:
Couldn't have said it any better L2B.
I had written up almost the same couple of paragraphs (but mine had a few more F-bombs... I gotta cut back). Well done.
Rancid said:
Lovie Smith is probably a phenomenal Defensive Coordinator
MikeBrownhadaPosse said:
Ah....ha.....hahaha.....bwaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA!!!
Nice.
jmbears1977 said:
I hears he got himself a fancified new defense that's set to revolutionize the y2k!! Yee Haw Tex-y Smith!
Doc Nitty 34 said:
I'm going to play devil's advocate and defend Tommie for a moment
First: MB30SD, I wonder if Tommy referring to the facilities was just an example of Tommy being a little, shall we say, slow. I mean, in the same piece, he corrects his statement, "Now the back is on our walls" with the equally erroneous statement, "the wall is on our backs". Clearly, he's not to bright. Maybe just an example of the wrong guy trying to speak on behalf of the team. Who knows, maybe some of them were just discussing the new barcaloungers prior the interview, and so the furniture was on his mind.
Second: Shonbear, inferring that Tommie and the team aren't trying hard enough simply because he wants to try harder isn't really fair.
Third: Albert, we can twist anything to suit our agendas, and if our agenda is to make Tommy/Lovie look bad then we can say that Lovie being good to us means Lovie is coddling us. He's a players coach, yes. He's a nice hu hum seeming kind of guy, yes, but he's had the balls to bench Tommie not once, but twice. How many coaches bench their best players? Not many. And I guarantee you, Tommy is not the only disapointing player who deserves discipline in this league.
Here's what we know about Tommy. Tommy was a great player for 3 years. Commonly referred to as the best 3-technique in the game for 05 and 06. He was the engine that made those defenses go. He was our Warren Sapp. When he went down in '06 our defense became pretty average. In that very game, Tampa Bay (I think it was) came back and nearly beat us after being down by plenty. Since that game, Tommy has never returned to form and we all blame it on things like effort and lack of heart and stuff like that. Could it be that that injury and the subsequent knee injury has made him just an slightly above average player? And if this is the case, shouldn't we maybe cut him a little slack. I don't know. He's made some dumb comments over the years, but we loved that about him when we were dominating with him, and now we go out of our way to make him seem like a stooge.
I like that he's defending his coach. I like that he wants to be accountable and want to turn it around. I like it that he feels the need to speak on behalf of the team. He's just not that good at it. He should only speak if he's trying to be funny.
I liked Tommy then and I payed too much for his jersey to give up on him now. Though, you're points all some merit, I'll grant you.
Doc Nitty 34 said:
First: I think it's wrong to say he's not trying hard enough simply because he wants to try harder.
Second: I think him mentioning the facilities is him trying to defend his coach and not being very good at public communication. Clearly not that bright of a guy. In the same piece he screws up the same cliche twice.
Finally: saying Lovie has been good to them is not the same as saying he's coddled them and enabled them. He's benched Tommie not once, but twice, and how many coaches bench their best player? He's also said goodbye to Tank and Ced (with the help of Angelo).
Basically, we forget that he used to be our Warren Sapp. We forget that when he went down in '06 (TB game was it?) our defense became very average. If I recall, TB almost came back on us and they had been down by three scores. Our defense was great when he was great and hasn't been great since he we went down. Yes, he's a idiot. But he's our idiot and it's not his fault his hamstring detached from the bone or that Marc Columbo leg whipped him.
I like that he's sticking up for his coach and trying to rile the troops. He might be the kind of guy who should do it with play rather his words, but at least he's trying. I think he's hilarious actually, just not very motivational. He's kind of like an athletic Tracy Morgan.
Besides, I payed too much for his jersey to give up on him now.
BEAR DOWN TOMMIE!
Doc Nitty 34 said:
God damn it. I thought the first one didn't post and so I reposted in a hurried summarizing sort of way. Shit.
Sorry Guys.
MikeBrownhadaPosse said:
Hey, it gave us the image of Tommie being an athletic Tracy Morgan...an idiot savante in a mid-rif shirt...or Tommie wearing the Brian Fellows' safari outfit.
Yipes.
NY Bears Fan said:
I'm Brian Fellows!
jmbears1977 said:
I'd like to thank my guests, but NOT THAT BIRD!
Doc Nitty 34 said:
Hi. I'm Brian Fellows!
MikeBrownhadaPosse said:
Tommie Harris is not is not a Pro Bowl defensive tackle, nor does he have the sense that God gave a tuna fish sandwich.
He is simply an enthusiastic young man with a sixth-grade education and an abiding love for Lovie Smith and the Chicago Bears facilities. Share his loves, tonight on...
Tommie Harris, Tommie Harris, Tommie Harris!
gpldan said:
"Now, the back is on our walls," Harris said. "I mean the wall is on our backs. So we really have to do something now."
Maybe he meant the 'buck is in our walls'. If that was the case, he's right if the opposing OL make up the bucks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiJElPRnz54
BillW said:
Tough times for the Bears brain trust. Tommie's comments will certainly be taken as an indictment of Lovie AND of tommie and maybe other players as well. As in "why do they need this to happen before they realize they ought to be playing harder?"
Then Grossman's dad comes out and says what everyone SHOULD know - the Bears can't possibly be THAT bad at PICKING QBs. What they ARE bad at is DEVELOPING them and giving them the tools to win. If this year doesn't prove that, NOTHING will. Jay will end up with worse stats than Rex. If this were Rex, he'd be benched. It's NOT the QB - it's the attitude of emphasizing defense to the EXCLUSION of offense. Thinking "well, will draft a guy here (RB) or trade for a guy here (QB) and that's enough for the offense."
The organization does not know how to build a football team. SB in 2006? Well, even a blind squirell finds a nut sometimes. (See 'Cardinals, Arizona'.)
SC Dave said:
It all kinda points back to Ron Turner, now doesn't it?
Jerseyflyer said:
Tommie's done. Everyone here knows it because he's ALLOWED to quit by THE LOVEHAMMER. All he gets in the form of punishment is to sit out a game. Can't get injured on the pine. Lovie is Tommie's illegitimate Daddy from Big Sandy. Here's a thought to ponder. Being old school, what do fellow thread mates think Buddy Ryan would do with Tommie? Bet he'd have fights set up in practice to challenge Tommie's manhood. All week long! Danimal would kick his ass all over field. Mongo would F him up real nice. Richard Dent...don't even go there. Hell, I bet the late great Taco Bell would knock him out with one punch. He's a big ass baby who plays hard when HE feels like it. CANCER!
lobotobear said:
Jerseyflyer...right on! with the CANCER! there is a ton of cancer on this team..and as cancer does it infects all and then they become what we see now. on a previous comment I thought of 82'-83' when a certain coach came in and had expressed if you do not want to be on this team it is time for you to move on. AGAIN!! I THINK WE ARE AT THAT CROSSROAD!
Dmband said:
Here's my take on this...Its become pretty apparent that, unless we experience a miraculous turnaround, which we wont, Lovie is out of here after next year..my question is this..with the fact that the coaching class of this year (meaning guys who are available) is the best it has been in YEARS. If ultimately a change is going to be made, which, lets face it, it is...why not make it now. I get it, we owe Lovie money, but waiting until the good coaches are gone, makes about as much sense as a team in the NBA waiting until the 2011 offseason to pick up a Free Agent...opportunity only knocks once...
Clearly, Shannahan IS going to get a job somewhere this offseason...he's a Chicago guy, offensive guy, who knows Cutler.
I actually like Lovie, but this is stupid. If we wait until after next year to dump Lovie, it will just be another terrible move in a long line of mistake by this organization.
Albert in Tucson said:
"Twisting" for an agenda, Doc? I think that's a stretch because the
facts are that warm human being, Father/Reverend/Rabbi Lovie Smith couldn't get Tank Johnson or Cedric Benson to toe the mark for him in Chicago and we are now into multiple YEARS of watching Tommie Harris show up when he feels like it.
Doc Nitty 34 said:
I think the fact that he allowed those players to be ultimately cut, and that fact that he benched those players is counter to your coddling argument, that is all. Twisting to suit an agenda may have been too strong. My apologies. again, devils advocate was my main goal. I'm sick and tired of the lovester.
Albert in Tucson said:
On a related matter...
For those hoping Lovie gets canned soon, heard something on the drive into work from one of national the radio wonks that I think actually has some merit. I am paraphrasing:
"Yes, eating 2 years of Lovie Simth's contract would be expensive and is not something you normally expect the Chicago Bears to do.
On the other hand, the Bears have a LOT more money invested in Jay Cutler."
And I know what you're all thinking: "Albert has a job?"
Jerseyflyer said:
Regarding Shanny coming in. He's still getting paid big time to hang out at his newly constructed house in CO. Check it out. The sprawling ranch home of former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan is building in Cherry Hills Village will have amenities that would make any kid's eyes pop.Designed by Sall Residential Design Group, the 34,927-square-foot home includes a bowling alley and lounge, a poker room, a video-golf room, a racquetball court and a shuffleboard table, according to the building permit filed with Cherry Hills Village.And that's just in the basement, where there also will be four bedrooms.The main level includes two studies, a gallery, a music and living room, a gathering room, a dining room, a conservatory, a kids' arcade and playroom, and two bedrooms, including a master suite with his and hers closets.
There are six fireplaces; a 3,600-square-foot, six-car garage; a 2,150-square-foot guest house; a "wine residence" and guest house; a swimming pool; and two bridges. Who'd want to come to Chicago and risk getting hit in the head with a railroad tie when you can live(and get paid to sit around) in CO? Don't think we get Shanny....
Albert in Tucson said:
Ooowee. Did you see the new one that Rex Grossman's Dad ripped for the Bears?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-17-mitchell-nov17,0,1193797.column
Shady said:
Yeah, we talked about it yesterday.
Dmband said:
Jersey-
That makes a ton of sense to me, or you, but these guys live to coach, (most of them anyway)...by that logic, why would ANYONE coach into thier 60's or 70's when they have a ton of cash..I dont know much about Shanny, but my guess is he's itching to get back in...
My overall point being, even if its not him, why pass up on this coaching class if a move is going to be made..which its becoming increasingly clear it is..
jmbears1977 said:
Please Bill Cowher. Please make my team good. Make us play defense that hurts people. Make us run the ball. Make our quarterback successful like the one you left behind in Pittsburgh. Tell players they suck when they do. Cut them when they steal from the team. You are the chosen one. Like Keanu Reeves in that karate movie where everyone dressed in black and there was no plot.
MB30SD said:
JMB... been preaching Cower since the fire lovie movement started up again. I am 100% with you.
Albert in Tucson said:
Orlando Pace is back practicing at left tackle after a mild concussion suffered in last Thursday's game.
That's comforting news, isn't it?
Albert in Tucson said:
Orlando Pace is back practicing at left tackle after suffering a mild concussion last week.
That's a comforting bit of news.
Isn't it?
Shady said:
I'll take a mild concussion over a mild case of bad, which is what Kevin Schaeffer suffered last Thursday.
Urlacher FTW said:
Schaeffer is a natural RT who is much better at run blocking and there was really no noticable drop off at LT after Pace left. They should put Williams in for Pace this game using his injury as a reason and start Schaefer at RT, then we might have 1 direction we could run instead of 0.
SC Dave said:
Agree!
gpldan said:
Bears fans go all Hemlock on a Steelers Fan:
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/weird/Steeler-Fan-Says-He-Was-Poisoned-in-Chicago-70285092.html
"If I can catch him once upon the hip, I will feed fat the ancient grudge I bear him." -Merchant of Venice.
Nutria said:
It was curious to see Devin Aromashodu get on the field during such a critical time. Final drive, 3rd down. And what do you know? He makes a catch that probably no other Bear receiver could make. Why they waited so long to go to a player they obviously have faith in is bizarre. What is more bizarre is that he doesn't get in after that were they might get an endzone look. This team clearly lacks a receiver that can make a big play in the end zone. Olsen and Davis haven't reached a point in their career, maybe never, where they'll out jump or wrestle the ball from a defender in the end zone. Maybe we'll see a little more of DA.
Shady said:
Bizarre personnel decisions for this organization is nothing new.
Urlacher FTW said:
I dunno anymore what to expect on Sunday. I think you can only really expect Special Teams to show up for a full game every game. The Defense is inconsistent and injured but I don't know if it matters because the offense is simply awful, we are back to being more likely to score on D or ST than on O. Cutler is horrible, his throws are so flat even downfield that he has to be amazingly accurate on every throw or it's a pick.
I have an idea, let's just have Hanie practice on Fridays(RedZone day) and anytime we get in the RedZone, we put Hanie in. Im pretty sure he couldn't be any worse than Rex is down there, I mean Jay.
MB30SD said:
You guys are cracking me up today. Thanks.
Irish, from the last thread... I knows we don’t have picks, so we're just going to have to be really smart/strategic about our FA pick-ups. Oh, shit… we have JA doing that don’t we. Damn.
Look, it can certainly be done and done well (per the examples I gave before), we just need someone to be the guy who finds the gems and gets on them as soon as the rumors of their availability start to flare up. Anyway, a girl can dream.
Since we’re unwrapping Xmas presents early and already discussing our new head coach, let’s break down who’s on the table. The front runners seem to be (so far)…
The Big Guns (subliminally listed in the order of my favor):
• Cower
• Shanahan
• Fisher
• Gruden
The Young and Hungry:
• J. Harbaugh
• The other dude, can’t remember his name and I’m not going to search the last thread
Mostly I’d like to hear from you guys why you think gruden or shanny or fisher would be better than cower. I get the basic stuff about Shanny (offensive guy, knows cutty, hasn’t won a SB in decades, etc..), I kinda (sorta) get fisher, but truly do not get the gruden pick (especially after listening to him pop off all last night).
Anyway, as Ghost (I think?) says, please discuss…
Urlacher FTW said:
Cowher is a pussy who I lost every bit of respect for when they shouwed him blubbering like a schoolgirl on the sidelines the year they lost the AFC Championship.. may have been Big Ben's rookie year? There is no crying in football (unless it's overjoyed tears)especially not here so to hell with that I don't care if he is good or not.
Shanny I would support simply due to Offensive geared and a familiarity with Cutler. Jay is the horse this team has hitched it's wagon too so you better start building around him now.
Gruden was a flash in the pan wasn't he? I never got what he did but walk a current contender through the playoffs and then allow the team to erode away and get in a bunch of fights with QBs. We really want a hot-head coach who has issues with QBs?
Sounds a lot like Barry Switzer to me when I lay it out like that and I bet he'd be a lot cheaper nowadays, so hell why not call up ol Switzer, he's like Diet Gruden.
Fisher, I guess he gets the auto-nod for being an ex-bear but outside of that he really isn't superb at being a football coach.
The reality is this, your only as good as your Offensive and Defensive lines. Look at the Colts.. did their "great" head coach and HoF receiver leaving even affect them? Nope, they still have a great Oline, great QB, and a quality Dline, so they kept right on trucking. Look at Dallas in the early 90s, Jimmy built that team from that Oline up and everyone thought he was nuts, but a stuck a reliable QB back there with a durable RB, and a big play WR and had a powerhouse. Doesn't matter who is calling in the plays or who is throwing the ball if they don't have time to take a 5 step drop and throw.
The Ghost of Halas said:
Well, Gruden isn't going anywhere. He and ESPN have become bedfellows for perhaps the next few seasons.
My vote is for Cowher or Shanahan. I have a hard time choosing between the two of them. Both have ring(s). Both led successful perrenial playoff teams for a long time. For a while it seemed like the Broncos and the Steelers kept knocking each other out of the playoffs.
I think I am the only Bears fan on this blog who has an unfavorable opinion of Jeff Fisher. I couldn't care less that he is a former Bear. I couldn't care less that he was a part of the '85 team. Other than his longevity, there is nothing remarkable about his career as a head coach. He's built some pretty good teams...he got to the Super Bowl once (and lost)...but mostly mediocrity. Since his first season as head coach he is 130-103. He gives me no more confidence and fills me with no more of a winning attitude than the current coaching staff.
Cowher and Shanahan are almost legendary coaches. Fisher is good, but not the best option. Gruden is not an option...sure he's got fire...but does his have ability?
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FQD1911 said:
hot from the wires:
Dick JaMORroun has been fired from the Bills. Bills owner Ralph Wilson to Buffalo News: "Nothing ever seemed to go right. It's the toughest thing I ever had to do personally because [Jauron's] such a great guy."
gpldan said:
Tonight, he and John Shoop can join hands and sing koom-bay-ah.
The Ghost of Halas said:
And with Jauron fired in Buffalo...that means they are going to try to get Shanahan, Cowher, and anyone else of talent. Bears need to unfuck themselves and get this shit moving.
January 4, fire Lovie Smith, Bob Babich, and Ron Turner
January 23, hire new guy.
February 6, 2011, Win Super Bowl
KentuckyBearsFan said:
But why would anyone with talent want to coach in Buffalo?
SpawnOfDitka said:
Maybe Jimmy Johnson is available...Can we add him to the matrix??
SpawnOfDitka said:
This just in...Marv Levy back in in Buffalo
Rancid said:
Buffalo doesn't love dick anymore
MB30SD said:
How very propos:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/peter_king/11/17/mail/index.html?eref=sihp
..the first part, the rest is garbage.
MB30SD said:
Also, an amusing article from D. McGrath: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/dan_mcgrath/11/17/bears/index.html
BillW said:
Hmmm.. Jauron gone now with a record of 3-6; only one game worse than ours, and I'd say the overall expetations for the Bears were MUCH greater than that of the Bills. Yet we all seem resigned to at least one more year of Lovie - not becuase anyone thinks he's a good coach, but becuase he was shrewed enough to get a long extension.
In fact, we've been REAL good at hiring coaches whose only real talent is positioning themselves for extensions without seriously contending for a SB crown.
MB30SD said:
Mildly amusing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2-yFGe3AX0
...but sadly true.
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