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  <title>Comments for Hal Turner&apos;s history of hate and intimidation</title>
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    <title>Hal Turner&apos;s history of hate and intimidation</title>
    <summary>SPLCHere in the United States people have the right to engage in a wide variety of public speech, even when a majority of their fellow citizens find that speech to be hateful or offensive. White supremacist Hal Turner has taken...</summary>
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      <name>Joe the Cop</name>
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<![CDATA[
      <span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><div class="pkg has-caption embedded-image right" style="width: 125px;"><a rel="lightbox" href="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/arresting-tales/assets_c/2009/06/halturner-thumb-125x147-4481-thumb-125x147-4482.jpg" title="Thumbnail image for halturner.jpg"><img alt="Thumbnail image for halturner.jpg" src="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/arresting-tales/assets_c/2009/06/halturner-thumb-125x147-4481-thumb-125x147-4482.jpg" class="mt-image-right" width="125" height="147" /></a><p class="caption">SPLC</p></div></span>Here in the United States people have the right to engage in a wide
variety of public speech, even when a majority of their fellow citizens
find that speech to be hateful or offensive. White supremacist Hal
Turner has taken advantage of that right for years. Yesterday <a href="http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/06/blogger-arrested-in-threats-on-federal-judges.html?track=email-alert-breakingnews">he was arrested by the FBI for threatening federal judges</a>.<br /><br />Turner has been engaging in hateful and threatening speech for years.&nbsp; I first heard of him during the investigation into <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/11/judge.bodies/index.html">the murder of Judge Lefkow's husband and mother</a> in 2005.&nbsp; He was already well known to the Southern Poverty Law Center as a prominent white supremacist who <a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=559">openly advocated violence</a> against judges, and was considered one of 40 prominent hate figures in an <a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?pid=215">SPLC Intelligence Report in 2003</a>.<br /><br />Let me give you some examples of Turner's speech.&nbsp; <a href="http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/turner_own_words.htm">These quotes</a> were compiled by the Anti Defamation League:<br /><br /><blockquote><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">"I
think a full day of violence against blacks . . . would be a really
nice thing . . . complete with lynchings, church burnings, drive-by
shootings and bombings to put these subhuman animals back in their
place." </span></font></span></font><br /><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></span></font><br /><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></span></font><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">"Let
me blunt; by 'violence' I mean KILLING elected officials and judges
whose sinister, evil exercise of power has struck at the very heart of
what America really is : A Constitutional Republic based upon White
Christian values...I am ready to do what's needed.&nbsp; Are you?"</span></font></span></font><br /><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></span></font><br /><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></span></font><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">
"Let me just take this opportunity to remind U.S. District Judge
Lawrence Karlton, that I, me, Hal Turner, uttered on this radio show
that a ruling that had been made by a different Federal Judge, Judge
Joan Humphrey Lefkow, in Chicago...I uttered that her ruling made her
worthy of being killed and in March of this year her family was
murdered.&nbsp; I don't like this ruling that was issued by U.S. District
Judge Lawrence Karlton in San Francisco, saying that the Pledge of
Allegiance is unconstitutional. I hope I don't have to make a similar
utterance about Judge Karlton like I made about Judge Lefkow.&nbsp; You
people on the Federal Bench think you can't be gotten to...you *can*
[asterisks in original] be gotten to."</span></font></span></font><br /><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></span></font><br /><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></span></font>"<font face="Arial" size="2">To my knowledge, mine is the only web site
in the world that talks about killing Supreme Court justices and
members of Congress in THIS piece....I actually use the term "patriotic
assassination!"....So, here it is for all to see. The corridors of
power DO IN FACT tremble at what is spoken on this web site and on my
radio show. We ARE being heard. They apparently FEAR us."</font><br /></blockquote><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><br />You
get the idea.&nbsp; So, if Turner has been going on like this for years, why
was he only arrested yesterday?&nbsp; Can Turner claim, as <a href="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-subtext/2009/06/blogger-arrested-threats-chicago-federal-judges.html">Amy Guth mentioned</a>, that he is only engaging in "creative non-fiction"? <br /><br /><a href="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bar-tender/2009/06/us-v-hal-turner-filed-today-on-the-day-of-arrest.html">Chicago Bar-Tender Marian Wang</a> went looking for more information and found that Turner's blog has been flagged.&nbsp; She helpfully posted <a href="http://207.41.16.133/rfcViewFile/09cr542.pdf">a link to the criminal complaint</a>
filed in U.S. District Court. Apparently Turner crossed the line when,
in addition to making threats and encouraging others to kill judges, he
posted the judge's photographs, phone numbers and addresses on his
website.&nbsp; Even if Turner himself wasn't going to pull the trigger, he
knew that one of his readers surely could, especially given the
information that Turner provided.<br /><br />Turner had also spoken out on the Matthew Hale case, posting information on judges who heard Hale's appeal.&nbsp; Hale<a href="http://www.splcenter.org/intel/news/item.jsp?site_area=1&amp;aid=102"> is currently serving a 40 year sentence</a>
for attempting to hire someone to kill a federal judge.&nbsp; Matthew Hale
was the founder of a white supremacist group called "World Church of
the Creator".&nbsp; <br /><br /></span></font></span></font><span class="mt-enclosure mt-enclosure-image" style="display: inline;"><div class="pkg embedded-image left" style="width: 100px;"><a rel="lightbox" href="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/arresting-tales/assets_c/2009/06/benjaminsmith-thumb-100x135-4480.jpg" title="benjaminsmith.jpg"><img alt="benjaminsmith.jpg" src="http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/arresting-tales/assets_c/2009/06/benjaminsmith-thumb-100x135-4480.jpg" class="mt-image-left" width="100" height="135" /></a></div></span><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><font color="#000000"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">In 1998, a north shore skinhead named <a href="http://www.cnn.com/US/9907/05/illinois.shootings.02/">Benjamin Smith</a>,
a close friend and follower of Hale, went on a killing spree over the
fourth of July weekend.&nbsp; Smith wounded 6 Orthodox Jews in Rogers Park,
killed former Northwestern baskeball coach Ricky Byrdsong (an African
American) in Skokie, wounded an African American minister in Decatur,
Illinois, killed a Korean student in Bloomington, Indiana, and then
killed himself after a police chase.&nbsp; Smith also shot at a number of
other intended victims along the way.&nbsp; Hale met with Smith shortly
before the attacks, and Hale subsequently referred to Smith as a hero
and martyr.<br /><br />People need to understand that, for the Hal Turners and Matt Hales of the world, words do in fact have consequences.<br />&nbsp;<br /></span></font></span></font><br />
      
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    <title>Comment from juanyen on 2009-06-25</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I taught summer school in Evanston and Skokie for a few years, from 1998-2001. Ricky Birdsong's son was in my summer school class the summer after his father was murdered in front of him. Not surprisingly, he was angry and distracted. It was sickening-- Birdsong had kept his family to Evanston after he left his coaching job at Northwestern in order to be in a diverse and safe environment for his family. The damage Smith did to Birdsong's family and several others is indescribable. </p>

<p>I truly hope Hale has found some good buddies in the shower at his prison. </p>]]>
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